This is the rust castle show Howard and charge my batteries specialist and a real -- bit -- local good morning to you won -- and all I hope you're doing well. Look good outside looks like another beautiful fall day here in the upstate South Carolina and beyond. And so we welcome whatever is on your mind that you wish to share with -- us. In other words there's no such thing as changing the subject all though. I have a stack full of topics to talk about and we're gonna start. Of course what we promise you is to be your eyes and ears when it comes to local events and last night. Big events and county council and some of this being miss reported. We're gonna get right down to it but ultimately folks it is up to voters everywhere you know that in the old saying is. You truly do get to government you deserve. Because of the people that you choose to elect. And I gotta tell you a lot of folks need to think really seriously. About who they vote for for county council. After last night's vote because you got a lot of people on the council. Claiming that they're Republicans and courses I've tried to explain for a long time. Just because you say you're Republican. It does not mean you're a conservative a conservative a real conservative. Especially right now in this economy with all the uncertainty over obamacare Democrats at the national level say they're not gonna bid. Negotiate anything unless -- get even more taxes. If you don't forget there was a huge tax increase January 1 of this year. And at the national Republicans cave like they always do that we more tax increases come. You have to federal government looking into you know installing a black box and everybody's car. So they can keep track of how many miles you drive no matter what kind of road you drive because they want more of your money. Real conservatives. Wouldn't even. Have thought. About increasing taxes. That's why last night's votes prove. Who the real conservatives are the four who voted against it. Or was it five. Including a liberal. I'll explain all that coming up but here's a question do you. Is there any ball. Within the sound of my voice right now. Who thinks. That increasing. Any kind of tax right now is a good idea. It can get one person to explain to one's white increasing taxes is a good idea. You know there's a liberal group -- of state forever they claim they build a poll. And they say oh yes. Most people agree -- they love the idea of increasing taxes. So yeah we can work on Rose -- what we really need is more walking -- and bicycle trails I've I've got their back their newsletter. So they claim that most people want this. -- -- meant to the test right here right now. Is there anybody listening. Who thinks that it's a good idea and don't pay county council listening right now to. Because even though this vote is going to be next November. The referendum question. We can settle this right here right now is there anybody who thinks that it's a good idea to raise any kind of tax. And of course the vast majority say not only nobody I don't know. And you're welcome to express that to you really should expressive right here right now today. Are given the numbers to call. In just a moment my local update time is you know not. -- right Big Ten I think I know Barry travelers' answer to my question. The C Harry. If you met anybody who thinks it's a good idea to raise any kind of tax right now. And -- but at epic that -- her killer -- rhino hunt and conservative voice would just -- Saturday evenings right here on WORD at 8 PM. -- eight carries for stuff. So you were their last night Bowden. You were sharing with me earlier now everybody is reporting that this was an 84 vote. To create this special citizens committee to draw up a list of projects. That might be funded with the additional sales tax. You were there are and you say it was a lot closer than that explains. Well I've got blessed them and trust that -- also got a video that I shot or national -- all the -- was being taken. The people that voted to send more C but protection increased destroyed blatant. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chairman Bob Taylor. Jim bottoms and Joseph Biden won but who's the only seven that I myself. -- -- -- voted against that we're councilman Dan Morris what -- certain should kill each with a small donors and you're deal. -- it did you save money Gibson. Get certain voted against women at the liberal Democrat bloody Gibson voted against an increase in taxes. Would. That's groups and understood that that these actions are going to court that people or restrict brushed unbelievably bitchy ambushed -- Where is she innocent -- and common since and conscience. While attention has a lot of questions -- abortion have been that -- that the about it first in her district -- that can afford to carry more taxes to -- -- Tony you weren't there you were watching you -- keeping tabs on this you say it was a 75 mode which is big news so you're within one vote I'm shooting this thing down. But yet all the media is reporting it was at eight for a vote saying that -- Gibson voted for this. Well the media also reported rest that there were a few thousand people impression on DC man twelve a few years back. At at at at a well this is very curious to me. Now I am so he explained the situation when Wendy a call -- of a vote came Bob. And -- -- seemed to be a little bit confused yourself. Yes sir I would then when we return to roll -- -- When it was -- problem -- she says I'm a little confused. Because I wish there was a lot of back and forth about what do and that's actually do -- You know confirm which -- -- that I hear him are all right on -- news segment that they get it. But Irvin says that he watched -- from the public. Well equipped and I was diabetic who actually total councilman Jim -- Attempted. To add some amendments to the starting. In rhythm which would have removed. The reference to get 1% tax essential facts. And that would urge you know there they're great job of exploiting that that we have no problem. Strengthening exploratory committees but I bet wherever they need that you know -- they're both what people are establishment and take actually decreased. Whether or not to -- all the groups at least some attention. -- let's take this one step at a time what you find out -- people walk detection increased. And when Joseph -- -- -- attempt to remove all the reference from a -- increased their very important actually -- am. It was ultimately we believe that seven people are voting and there it. It and our people loading against. So that we can then do so am I am. So a lot of -- and -- was confused about that and she and she says she was confused. -- and then she says you know I don't know. Well I'd I'd find that big news and plan to follow up on that myself. Now it's let me see if they got this accurate Greenville news Rudy -- fresh and pretty bell. He says and writes in the Greenville news. -- The wording of the resolution that was approved. Could be used and I'm quoting only for highways. Roads streets. Bridges and a curious -- related facilities. Now what does what does that mean related facilities. Are working group the stakes action but I don't really hundreds of sorties could be even at. They bought a new book called the minimum goal and an attorney general says he -- in -- -- bike trail also could beat. If it is it really didn't do that Russia tried to say that it's a -- But what but what a minute Rudy bells report said that that meant that they would exclude. For example money for the -- bus system which the GTA wants or he writes the full program of sidewalks -- paths and trails. Favored by. Upstate for ever they the conservation group. They did he unique that cited for our county attorney mark Collison. But wait a minute related facilities what happens if you have a pass. To go across. Via the road is that a related facility. -- its gross. So very little we stand this morning on this so they'll go about and truth be known they've already picked their committee haven't -- -- -- You know of course they would they would sit there and try to go to regular taxes never show the clothes until too late. I think the change which are very good that they know exactly who will be -- -- -- Well essentially it's it's more clear -- -- a there are actually more than he knew you -- very -- and -- -- -- that you made about. Which -- You can call that you Kevin McGuire yeah well -- -- -- I'm gonna call it a wire. Because it could have been an important people to believe that he watched if you look at them whether or not they -- -- -- sales -- -- 1%. Sales tax -- 65 million dollar year sales tax. I bet that's why is not definitely citizen committee to determine whether or not we wanna show -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It -- a small number matched them money. Come in other words the sales tax is a foregone conclusion increasing that so now the committee picks out the projects. -- assuming that they're gonna get the tax. And then that the voters will look at that and say well wait a minute that roads in my neighborhood I think I'd be in favor of that or or or something to that effect. Oh well I'm sure that there's a conflict going to be in court anybody. It's critically district. So that -- we we need -- smoke. We need this. Last thing Harry and now this can't be true but maybe it can be. The ultimate insult is a -- this funding. As we explained yesterday would be for state roads which we already have pay for. But -- but apparently there's not be helping ease the anytime soon coming from Columbia which is another issue. Where are the supposing conservatives from the upstate who were supposed to be looking out from the upstate and who go to Columbia. Why why is that the case why are we not getting what many feel we should get from the taxes we pay. Four state roads but. It in this is true I'll just laughed out loud. Is it your understanding that if this thing goes through we will be using the local money. Four state roads and here's the clincher we have to pay the state. To collect the -- four points. And we ask that question also we don't have the quintessential till -- cannot. 1% of revenue collected. Just just spoke -- in the text. And then what I have to pay the state -- an additional voting -- percent because we were forced to hire or. I stay in each one billion years. Two to approve the projects called I don't know what would be -- coach always at Wimbledon because the center's South Carolina. Maybe political -- Everything that we call for the privilege. -- -- -- -- -- This is like something that would happen in Chicago so we were already tax for state roads now we're talking about. Tech being -- even more at the local level to take care of some state roads and on top of everything else we have to pay the state. To collect the tax from us again. That we already -- I mean I get confused tried to explain it but this is this is the way it works apparently. Yes absolutely. Let's look you know we -- not gonna give them. November the fifth. They are gonna have a regular work schedule council meeting which I -- what -- -- we expected or actually being a special counsel made him. There was no public -- so mr. call them you know. You can what Republican put it why don't you both to change to mention that smog but public template yeah. -- about a 150 people left with no tax hike SC state coach on the chest. If you had a public -- because -- had some riots -- about it. November 4 or fifth there will be the council meeting and potentially important public input and they got the vote on this again the past November 5. -- -- so more about that to come every Hitler rhino hunt conservative voice thank you Bonnie. So what did you think of all of that live local a big time 890. Yeah we do that but what we do best is making you aware of situations that affect you right here in the upstate and most importantly. Giving you a chance. To share your thoughts on so you wanna pay more in taxes. Some responses from the WORD text like number that is 71307. Otherwise. If you wanna be on the air -- you've got an opinion on this and you're willing to express and on the air. In -- village 2329673. Don't you Spartanburg people to feel left out because as I said yesterday I guarantee you. Other surrounding counties are watching very closely. What's going on in Greenville county. Because a lot of these councils are up against it. And -- what whether it's roads or any other issue when it comes to the issue of money. That's -- we're talking about here we already pay money for roads. I I I don't give them anymore of my money do you wanna get many more your money I think they have plenty of money. I think they got to prioritize. I think we've got to take a really close look. And whether or not we're getting our money's worth for what we're paying for roads now and how their maintained I think this whole thing -- -- is a great mystery. What are some of these -- not last very long. Couple responses on the text -- that's also far Ross avid cyclist. But a very strong no for any more pads or lanes or tax hikes. Until we see results and fix the roads we have on the taxes they have collected already perfect. That's exactly right. -- more taxes are bad government doesn't fulfill the fiduciary responsibility they have been using our current taxes wisely. Absolutely so why eight. Why would we wanna give them anymore. What do drivers that they can't figure out how to be responsible with what we give them already it's as simple as that. So this is your chance. I know the votes a year off. But that the campaign. Was started last night when county council began the process. That many think will ultimately lead to a sales tax increase. And this. In what is regarded as the most conservative part of this state. How can this be what some would Bob Taylor. Come on eleven local update time is 829. There. -- castle show. Powered and charge my batteries specialists paint did you use a thousand dollars in Christmas cash we'll give you that first opportunity to win that. Coming up before the top of this hour coming up right before. There -- 859 live and local traffic and weather update I've got the first code word of the day and once you have bad. You can enter to win so stand by stay tuned. That's coming up right here on the -- castle show keeping it real keep in -- local because somebody's gotta say this stuff. And out a little window a little a little view last night into the current agree volcanic council. Actually paving the way. For a tax increase. Now when you call them they're gonna say no we didn't do that bad guy -- -- radio just crazy. You know who listens to him anyway. Wait we just want a committee we wanna committee. To do what to come up with a list of projects. That might be voted by an increase in that that might might be funded by a increase in the local sales tax. Do the logic folks. As Bob don't tried to do with the amendments last night what I mean if if they have taken what Bob suggest. I'm sorry Joseph -- suggested. And said OK well let's let's come up with a list of projects that we think. It should should be addressed and then we can talk about where that money should come from no they're presuppose thing. They're Greenville county for the first time in its history. Is gonna vote in a local option sales tax which gringo Cammie has never done before. And that of dubs tomorrow but this list -- projects and so they don't tell you we just voted to form a committee after all. The people should decide that's not really what's going on here. And I think it's very very revealing this is the time if you've never before gotten involved. In local politics. In local government this is the time make -- stand this is our money. I like what I -- has -- sales tax increase or any tax increase. Means people have less money to spend. Therefore generating less revenue collected. Taxes are squeezing the life out of the middle class. It and that's exactly right. That's exactly. Right. Right to start withdrawn by Iran. I see you don't know that. I think a lot of this situation -- but I bet it's just like somebody that. I -- it could take it to smoky -- about that much money that they have to respect it never let their tips. Takes their -- -- and what and it's there's no they didn't know it there's so many party -- and the bank Atlantic -- far. That are you know just ridiculous that you expect a power -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- We -- based tax increase. Well that's exactly right and it's going on obviously Ron in the country. You know we're looking at and how much money is wasted the fraud and abuse we've looked at him for the state level one now it's coming home to roost right here where we live and work every day. Everywhere there's -- and I mean there's just an enemy is everywhere and get -- -- -- -- waste and there's a -- much money overseas in countries that don't give us couldn't. About. And I think it's the same way here -- -- -- don't I'm I don't know what all the stuff there's but there's lots and lots they. And I would think can I could be wrong about this but I hope to hear from some today I would think it's not only individual taxpayers like you mean Ron. I would think that merchants would be overwhelmingly. Against this simply for the fact that if people have to pay more for stuff. They're not gonna buy as much of it. They're feeling pressure at the national level with obamacare in the uncertainty of the economy. Out the last thing in the world that we should be talking about is increasing taxes on the local level thank you sir. -- wouldn't Campobello high. You know I'm glad -- -- -- -- to wait for a tax increase because if you remember about six years ago Spartanburg county implemented at 25 dollar. Tax on renewing your driver or your registration your vehicle under the guise that they were able moderates. I don't know I don't drive every road in Spartanburg county road I drive on. I don't know where they're spending money that they've collected for pay Guerrero is no once it goes into the general on. Into the general copper they can take it -- music or everything it warrants not obligated to do. What what they said but you know I've worked melodic good business around here. At management jobs if I was a twentieth and irresponsible with the money. That they are with our tax money those businesses -- terminated. Yeah and that's what voters should look at especially for these -- councilman. Next time around. Because obviously they should be terminated they they should be you brought up an instinct point though Lou. I saw article the other day the headline caught my attention. Here we are fifteen years later what ever happened all that cigarette tax money. Remember that there were actually cigarette companies supposedly for education is anybody ever ever had a -- coming we know for absolute certainty. Then -- in South Carolina and other states they took that money and they used it for something else and I think they committed fraud. Remember the big push to go after the tobacco companies. And don't like. Get second if you want better what about Social Security all you can meet -- you've dropped you've dropped. On Anderson no there's no oversight there's no -- no penalty there's no justification you need. So why would he be in Iraq every shot count on your right. And talking about it -- and once they implement that tax there is no going back. -- -- right got to leave their Lucas who got about David thanks for the call take 398845. If you just tuned day and and a lot of local -- castle show so we spent a lot of time yesterday Greenville county council pulled the trigger last night. And voted to begin the process. Of increasing taxes. 44. Roads. -- including state roads which are already supposedly paid for by state taxes. -- that's a real issue why are we getting. Our money's -- so to speak at a Columbia what does that say about the legislators. Who represent. Us supposedly. And and go to Columbia. Question one. But it's a much broader -- there are are you this right here right now are you willing to pay more in taxes to an inefficient government of any kind. I'm still looking for one single person who thinks increasing taxes right now is actually a good idea. Apparently. The majority of county council last night thanks then this is a good idea. So that's what we're talking about was talked to Mike in Spartanburg hi Mike. -- you don't remember it. Or talk with our depth we have there. -- -- -- Now we just went through that revoke -- to reassessment. Now -- -- there's various there's more -- out -- 840000. Dollars of it. What are now more -- are -- It's remote reassessment there's -- web audience. -- files are more important to announce that. As far as you -- there are no big deal but I yeah. I don't know it's weird you know what your eye out for real or what but it there's oil always you know our. Oh yeah it was but what if what your own people would lose -- apple is. Correct let it rip or you aren't arm spirit. 300 darkness or else that Islamabad is. But open it -- -- site. You know well this is what -- -- are not that well now. What is clear that it's -- I respect to what you are people out there -- -- -- well which they're not they're all at once I moved. This but I know we're we commuted you know it's I don't. What you're out. -- -- And people are my. Son. -- -- Well we talked about it yesterday because we just went to -- in Greenville county I think a couple of years ago my comment on that and that's always been. You can send -- a piece of paper bag giving me -- me your opinion of what you think it's worth if you think it's really worth that write me a check. -- But it is it is confusing. Property tax really along with the so called death tax are just immoral. You. You never really own your property even if you pay for it ever really own your property as long as we have idiotic property taxes. An end and then the death tax so to be stardom you work all your life you make money you pay tax on it and then you die you're supposed put projects on and again. Enough with what that this is what the Tea Party. Started. On T taxed. Enough. Already. And I think that's more true this morning that it was even yesterday after what Greenville county council bit. I believe we are taxed enough already. You tell me if I'm right or if you think -- Live local update 849. 856 I sure hope you can stick around coming up in 89 o'clock hour we obviously have a lot more time we're gonna get into this in detail. Not only about the other local news about what's coming counseled. Has decided to do. A council that supposedly has a majority of conservatives. Why would even consider a tax increase but that there is another side to this story and wait until you hear what some of the liberal social progressives. Really want out of this. That's all coming up after nine and in two minutes I'm gonna give you the first code word of the day your chance to -- -- thousand dollars. In Christmas cash from WORD stand by for that. Let's talk to frank -- Spoke -- demo box. Collection no I don't. I used to work for a company and I'm not gonna mention their name. Are. We -- paid by the state. And we used to strike the highways. They've put down -- little markers in this senator Barack selectors pelicans. And you've written all roads where you have like the little ball PH yeah. The white -- okay. We were down in the southern part of the state down close to Alan -- -- actual -- We did 22 miles. Out in the middle of nowhere. And other systemic. That 20000. Dollars in my. We were doing this to what -- are here to. Just put this but the edge. And their stride shocked -- what can you know about. There are outsourced jobs well I carried a sign -- that would let people know self alarms server and I stopped traffic in the server. An order to let that stop trying to cure. What we're ready to go further than and I wouldn't Wear it bottomed out and out played all right. Out of a twelve and fourteen hour days. -- people. That's great people and cars. And two contractors the 22. Models. That -- thousand dollars a model. We just couldn't dial. And just stay 88. And I don't know why don't -- -- so I would go to my house yeah and. And they actually are insulted when a real conservatives suggest that may -- they don't need any more of our money. Thank you frank that was a great call for. 22000 dollars a month.