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The Russ Cassell Show 10/29/2013 Hour 4

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Obamacare causes millions of people to lose their policies despite the President's promise that people could keep their plans if they wanted to; Jay Clarke suggests not complying with Obamacare mandates in "Killing Obamacare" at American Thinker; American Black Out

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This is the rust castle show of power and charge to -- back. Batteries specialist -- five and a half past 11 o'clock guys. Tired of all these hearings going on there having another one today at a house hearing. Just review the status of the implementation. Of Obama care. And then the John Lewis of Georgia is up there about -- it's his turn yeah. In -- than it did make it impossible. What all the American to receive quality health care and some Muslim stand -- to stand up and I went right. Abortive -- and put ourselves. In a scary isn't it right and not a privilege. What goes -- the chart. Let me start red. There's -- 78 million consumers stating 3.4 billion on their premiums. This is due to some of the work that was done around the medical loss ratio these were benefits that actually went and forms of checks to individuals actually got thank you -- heads. From people and that I'd never heard god that I had never met. Thanking me for getting some a rebate back you can go to the individual or kick it back into their premium for the following year. Seventeen million children with preexisting conditions. Where you see it used to be able to be denied coverage this goes back to the flaws in the individual market that existed prior to be Affordable Care Act. Six point six million young adults able to stay on their parents' health insurance plan that's as critical particularly of the time. I'll before we're going to with our economy seven point one million seniors and the doughnut hole. And let me remind you that in addition to that you -- our release yesterday about the part B premium being flat for next year. That is some of the work -- the Affordable Care Act in controlling costs and let me just say going back to your point congressman. Is that if we had the highest outcomes. If we had the lowest infant mortality. If we have the longest lifespan. Maybe what we were paying would be worth that. But it's not the case is united our country does not look -- in terms of overall health statistics and certainly the south is suffering from that more than the rest of the country. Carried her name -- have a current. So Lewis at the trying to do. They're trying to. Make people believe after all this. And Obama -- is good thing listen. The did the dirty little secret about this is more more people are signing up for Medicaid. So for people on Medicaid why do you need obamacare. But here's the truth. They can try to spin this anyway they want. NBC news had it last night yes I said in BC news. President Obama repeatedly assured Americans. Then after obamacare became law people who like their insurance would be able to keep it. However millions. Of Americans. Are getting or or about to get to cancellation letters further insurance under obamacare say experts. And here's the the real. -- Even NBC's reporting Barack Obama and his administration. Have known about this for at least three years they knew. What was coming it's it's their goal. To destroy the private health insurance market. Lisa Myers and Hannah -- like. Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC news. That fifty to 75% of the fourteen million consumers. Who buy their insurance individually. Can expect to receive a cancellation letter. Or the equivalent. Over the next year because they're existing policies don't meet the standards mandated. By obamacare. One expert. Predicted that number could be -- high is 80%. Of the fourteen million getting their cancellation. And all of these experts these sources who spoke within BC say that many of those forced to buying. New policies that are cost them more will experience quote quote sticker shock. And then here's the department that they report this is NBC none of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The -- states. That policies in effect as of march 23 2010. Will be grandfathered. Meaning that consumers. Can keep those policies even though they don't meet requirements of the new pair of healthcare law. But they Department of Health and Human Services. Then broke regulations that narrowed that provision by saying. That if any part of a policy. Was significantly changed since that date march 23 2010. The deductible co pay or benefits for example. They and that those types of policies would not be grandfather. Buried in obamacare regulations. From July 2010. Is an estimate. There because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market forty to 67%. Of consumers. Will not be able to keep their policy. And they report because many policies. Well I've been changed since that date quote. Their percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year. Exceeds. The forty to 67%. Range. That's buried in the obamacare. Regulations what does that mean. Pretty simple. It means Barack Obama and his administration knew. -- more than forty to 67%. Of those in the individual insurance market. Would not be able to keep their plans even if they like to. Which just proves. That Barack Obama. Is a lawyer. Let me quote it. If you like your health plan you will be able to keep your helped plant. He started saying that in 2009 he was still saying that in 2012 let me quote him. If you already have health insurance. You will keep your health insurance. Robert -- -- scale of health policy and strategy associates a consultant. Who works for help the industry firms. Says quote this says that when they made the promise they knew half the people in the market outright couldn't keep what they have. And they wrote the rules so that donors couldn't make that neither. He estimates that 80% of those in the individual insurance market will not be able to keep their policies. And we'll have to buy insurance that meets requirements of the new law which I think mutants. More money. Valerie Jarrett actually responded to distance at all. People are losing their insurance because of obamacare -- losing it because of the insurance companies and anybody would -- -- can figure out what this means. The the health insurance companies are trying. To comply. With the requirements of the law. If they have to change. The policies or the federal government could come after -- And the net result of bad. Is that millions. Of Americans. Are losing their George Jay Carney was asked about this Ed Henry. Didn't Obama lying when he told people if you like your plan you can keep your plan. I mean everybody remembers that we played the audio for you here many many times. I mean it in an address to the American Medical Association June 2009. Quote. No matter how we reform health care this is Obama we will keep this promise to the American people if you like your doctor you'll be able to keep your doctor period. If you like your health plan you will be able to keep your health plan period no one will take you to -- no matter what. My view is that Health Care Reform should be guided by a simple principle. Fix what's broken and build on what works in quote. So Jay Carney was asked about this Ed Henry Fox News and these these stumbling all over the place. He said something like well a lot of people will be able to keep their plan if they like it. Even if it's not quite everybody. That got up at episode sounds a lot of people. And -- said simply go like those are getting dropped from their plans. -- don't get more comprehensive coverage. On the exchanges. And one of them the condoms all of pundit that I read regularly -- hot -- dot com. Said this would be like having the CEO of DirecTV tell you. That your monthly bill is about to double however. You'll get an extra hundred channels and return and maybe one or two people which people will actually watch. Is pretty good analogy. I mean is it's so. In an an official saying a lot but Carney a lot of people will be keeping their plans well it depends on how you have it how you define a lot. LA times had a story yesterday -- sixteen billion people. Being dropped in half of them being forced to pay more I mean that's that's quite a lot to me. I mean Californians. Getting slammed. Florida getting slammed. LA times all of those cancellations were prompted by a requirement from covered California. The new state insurance exchange the state didn't wanna give insurance companies the opportunity to hold onto the healthiest patients from two year. Keeping them out of the larger risk pool that will influence future raids. -- -- president of anthem blue cross in California. Since she got a recent letter from a young woman complaining about Alfred -- percent rate hike. She said quote I was all for obamacare until I found out. I was paying for it. So what's. What's the future of this. -- Clark. In what is becoming a new theme here you know assured apiece from American thinker with you a couple of weeks ago. Piece entitled I will not comply. Well there's another piece an American thinker called killing obamacare. We should star of obamacare. They -- web site launch is a PR disaster. I mean Americans now are beginning to see the truth. Many are questioning. He says what if we all just said no. What -- millions of Americans. Just simply refused to be part. Of the obamacare national take over and refused. To purchase insurance through the exchanges what do tens of thousands of young healthy people. Refused to purchase purchase health insurance at all. The answer obamacare would fail. He writes this would mean barring coverage outside of the exchanges are not buying yet at all. Do you -- the mandates buying health insurance outside the exchanges. Will be costly as insurers implement new requirements one answer. May be to purchase high deductible plan at a lower cost. And then purchase supplements. That -- help pay your deductibles and out of pocket. Many licensed health agents understand the process it's called bundling. Remember that bundling. Nvidia agency rights abused it for years to help their client still you'll probably pay more for health insurance -- -- paying now but. Buying insurance through the obamacare exchanges. It's probably. Gonna cost you more anyway. And he -- clearly we're talking about a rebellion of sorts a massive demonstration of Civil Disobedience. Usually the left loves that. And he says it would certainly cause panic in the White House. And in the liberal halls of power -- regular Americans. Defy. The strong arm tactics. A Barack Obama and his allies. He says some might think this is a radical idea. But when it government becomes destructive of the god given rights of the people the people have no choice. But -- -- day. Any laws passed by government that are clearly unconstitutional. Or destructive of the natural rights of free men and women must be opposed our most effective weapon. Is the tried and true practice of peaceful nonviolent Civil Disobedience. Much like we witnessed in the sixties. He says of course this type of action may come with a price tag. In the sixties civil rights protesters were attacked the dogs' water cannons beaten with batons. And of course assassinated. But the cause was worthy of the suffering in so what is today. Civil Disobedience is not for the faint of -- The iris may come knocking seeking to penalize those who do not purchase health insurance. For the moment the iris -- primary mechanism for penalized in such people. Is to withhold their tax -- so what are we saw to it that no excess funds are withheld from our paychecks. When they Irish nun look to seize our tax refunds as a penalty says they'll have nothing to withhold. If millions of Americans adopted this approach the IRS would be unable. To effectively enforce Obama -- penalties. And then a little history he writes about in 177656. Men signed. The declaration of independence and pledged their lives their fortunes and their sacred honor every one of them. Paid a price -- patriotism. And refusal to yield to the tyranny of king George today America is -- We face an encroaching tyranny. Which is as profound as that faced by the signers. Of the declaration. Our federal government is lawless out of control shows no respect for the constitution. The ability of our children and grandchildren. To live free. It's under tremendous threat. From radical a Lynn ski leftists. Who seek nothing less than the total transformation of our country. In obamacare is the linchpin of that transformation. How we battled this. Defiance. Refuse to comply. With the immoral and illegal walls. Refuse to participate in obamacare defies its mandates. And penalties refuse to accept. Obama care subsidies and tax credits there. Really -- stolen. From fellow Americans this is where the American generation. Must draw the line that. And maker stand for freedom today. The barbarians aren't at the gates they are from within. Within the White House -- the United States congress the fight over obamacare. Is a fight for all the marbles. Is the cornerstone of the radical leftist transformation of America and it must be defeated. This Dr. Martin Luther King said. An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust. And who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment. Eudora to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice. Is in reality. Expressing. The highest respect. For the lol. Powerful four -- -- -- A businessman from Southern California. Killing obamacare you can find it an American thinker dot com. Part of the storm to Orlando. Tiger. Laura do all right pretty powerful -- there. I'll like it. Socially rested enough stressed out there working sixteen hour days. And I -- it sort of just I don't fire at certain order a little Jewish agent market. Been there done that I hope your okay you are out RBIs -- he'd risk but it's harder do we don't you turn on the radio on the TV and I did. I do -- -- just thinking that's gross Alice thank him. Com. We would have there been a time when there's been administration. There was so disconnected from America and a president there's so disconnected in America. We have been a bit of time when there was so we had a president that was the celebrity. Well we've never had a president that was so liberty and not a leader. We never had bit are empowered to walk you through trying to Obey my dog or don't -- this -- all or. -- all excited -- sinking their forces and our country that believe them liberty. And resources to our country that don't and I think go to -- and they do so that we can not peacefully co greatest. But you know many change I think Obama care -- do this so a lot you a lot of converts. Tutu the conservative what are your opinion what -- -- gross. I hope so I hope you're right some days you know I have my doubts. I don't even know I mean that beautiful piece written by. But to me it does histories a great teacher freedom. Is is so sacred. Liberty is so sacred. Treason. Is just so obvious here. And no I I hope. I hope especially the younger generation. Just have a set has a sense of where we bend and what we fought for and what's at stake. I hope they do I know many young people on foreign shores do. But back your home I I just I just wonder. There are great for this sort this put in place certainly to our restaurant truthful I found out we're -- I think all of America -- a lot of post and the truth don't -- readers -- thinkers. And am looking outside of what the media -- Force -- us. Where the water into why there have been blindly following the height. Will eventually give sticker shock. MB traumatized. By this administration because it's destroying America and it has to affect everybody it is affecting everybody. Orlando hope you rest up man thank you so much for the call. By the way of news this morning after this. Huge report by NBC and others. That Obama knew about this and he knew how many people we're gonna lose and he lied when he said if you you do like your plan you can keep it. House Republicans now are pushing a new bill. It's called the keep your health insurance coverage act or something like that. They're pushing a bill to let everybody. Keep their health insurance. Fred Upton. A Republican from Michigan introducing -- keep your health plan act. It have been to address all these reports of people losing. Their current plans. CBS NBC reporting. That more than two million Americans have already been told. They cannot renew their policies so he said. Or this legislation is about providing folks the peace of mind. That they can and keep their current coverage if they so choose. The bill would allow plans sold on the market today to continue to be available. So. I'm sure somebody probably in the -- Republican establishment will say all you know this is this is just you can't win this so why -- even truck. Our quick break 1126 you were listening to WORD. 1063. Coming up on the bottom of the hour -- -- every time for the top of the news that's what minimum wage. But in the meantime -- in Spartanburg -- I don't reform and you're doing well. Well ray players while I understand some pertinent -- -- spectrum for a more than a year. Europe here into programs that -- Medicare or Medicaid. But -- made to worry about it but yeah. I understand from -- Mac here very that paper from a lot of money out of Medicare aren't. Yeah I've met not met very very true anymore but according to Medicare and mom called. And Medicaid is appearing in their program you do not have to worry about but yeah when I called our -- security. -- -- say they're not. -- -- -- answer that question went through my hearing is great I can't help but thank arrest. You can now or or or a -- you can't get a straight answer I mean the guy is. Been proven to be a liar in the people who worked forum or liars Kathleen Sebelius is a liar. I mean they're -- to deceive view. But I'll tell -- what's happening more and more. Is they're counting these numbers and -- I mean it kind of creative accounting Ross. Because a lot of people that they say are signing up for obamacare. Are actually being steered into Medicaid. And their long term cost involved but they're not they're not signing up for obamacare. Because of what you just pointed out everything is so confusing. And I think it was designed that way words the congress. On this. It's 1130. Backed right after this news update this is the Russ -- show our net charge my batteries specialists carried 1135 instructed choice in Pickens hi -- -- And thanks to hit -- it says it sure if -- -- -- -- -- it's up backwards and my dad I didn't outcome I don't have a -- government have a computer chip. Erica how much then allocate about what it's -- they paper and let the second half is really laugh. Well I don't they I think. I neighbor was a consultant who -- -- -- -- loan it's stepped up that it -- one of those guys you hate everything that there. -- -- That's that I think people were relapse has been that they made a play impact -- persona -- Yeah I don't. I mentioned it yesterday Joyce. Chris what our do you remember was at this hour that I mentioned was I the only and -- That watched American blackout period and I actually now have watched it twice. Yeah because I thought it was very powerful -- two hours and it is flush you know me from listening I mean I've I've been. Proper for a long long time but -- And none and I got to tell you of all of it. I think. Was just right on the reaction I thought through this whole process for many years now. Whether it's a blackout or something else what would move beat the reaction. Of of most people human nature human nature and people don't prepare. And then all of sudden they have to face the reality of the situation in the program you have a family for example that is prepared they bowed out. Two the mountains. Out and they run into problems there because even though they've prepared. -- they've got food and water. Then people start coming up in begging for. And and it's brilliant seeing what happens at the end and I won't give it away yeah. It's really it really true collapse but at the thing I don't know anybody a lot of people and pick in the without the -- bit. I don't know what's going out in the market -- that it finished article and here. Panamanian military planes and helicopters go and -- were -- -- -- re good at the age. The man who's been coming military plane headed toward the -- -- -- really -- to. So why aren't. I've never played at. There's been a feeling for quite awhile that the government you know -- -- stories about the MO purchases. Neil Cavuto had instinct thing you can find it on YouTube. That I guess since Friday is a key day that the government is preparing. Because. Of of cutbacks you know in food stamps and other things that are scheduled to take effect. On November the first and you don't know a lot of people that pay attention to the news. And think through all these things just had this feeling. Then things are going well and that something big is coming. But whether you believe that or not is up to you really are whether you just believe hey when I go to the grocery store. It just makes good common sense -- going back to the eagle scout motto be prepared to buy some extra cans of food or -- a little extra water. Because there may come a time when that borders not gonna come out your faucet. And by the way this was addressed in the American blackout program. How. A cyber attack. Basically shuts down the entire. Power grid for the entire for the whole country. And how people react when all of a sudden they don't have water to drink they don't have water to flush a toilet. And it just makes you think when you have some extra flashlights and batteries or. Some candles on hand. Matches 'cause -- fire were would be one of the keys. And if you don't have matches and don't have a wider. The question should be would you even have a clue how to -- for current and you really should train yourself I remember one time a woman called and she said wall. I don't I don't know how to start a fire if I don't have matches are. And I said movies you really should take it didn't take long to learn. There are a lot of other alternatives. How would you cook your food. If all of a sudden you don't have power. Doubt in my own life I thought all these things through. An end I I know how to do. I'm not a friend I was Coke can outside last weekend. Because -- -- some fresh turnip greens and I said you know what I. It just is part of my preparation I'm gonna. I'm gonna have way and I'm gonna cook from outside. And he didn't know after the gas -- runs out or -- run out charcoal. You better have a way to do that and you better think about that. And they are from parent. Or no or little kindling -- way that is dry. -- you know it's -- open -- still work should over starting a flyer of fire but but no all of this I know goes over a lot of people's heads because they think. Everything's going to be -- I thought I thought the most poignant part of the program. Joyce and you saw it. Was the couple in the penthouse in new York. And that girl that just didn't have a clue. And she was complaining. That are cell phone didn't work and a computer all of a sudden -- working as young couple. And a obviously quite wealthy and then what what good dose of reality they did it. -- wouldn't when all of a sudden the power grid shut him. And the part where the president we're gonna -- in the country pampered but I think it evershed that they happen but I really bad. Or one for an they had Obama and obviously I think they had taken excerpts. From things he had said I thought about hurricane Cindy which happened one year ago today. And that and in the Indy if they were saying how you know which things were so bad here. That we would have to ask for help from other countries and now some countries were mobilizing to try to help us. But I had the same thought you did I wonder how many actually would helpless true. But anyway I'm glad you brought up again today have gotten several emails about it here's one -- did you see. The -- GO movie American blackout and apparently one of the reviews it got. Was that it will scare you silly and then make you think. And I think that spinal -- -- spot on. But I don't you be able to find it on -- GO I was so impressed with that I actually taped it. You -- just just a little food for thought goes through the process and for me it's been an evolution going on for years now. The -- Lisa's. That it's going to be back on tonight -- -- yeah I'm done online one OK let me talk to Li -- Duncan hardly. Yeah I do actually it is going to backbone tonight and now. I've got my dad Mario recorder showed up so I'm recorded ten. So you haven't seen it yet. I didn't know I'd -- you know we I'm -- to a bamboo club provided. And not until you can get -- and I government informant you know. Well I am I saw the Promos for it probably I don't know a week ago or ten days ago and I just. Made -- -- -- usually I don't stay up that -- on a Sunday night. -- I'm just I'm -- ever dreamed -- not I don't Nat geo. Yeah it's it's American blackout. And pretend it's two hours but it's it's very well done it's realistically done. And you'll find if you're like me you'll find and watching it then you relate to a lot of people in this. I would -- -- until black dude got our -- -- to and you you'll say boy that's just like my neighbor and that's just like somebody in my family. But folks it just makes sense. Benjamin I don't know that in all original music video and blue knowledgeable being on Nat -- -- a little bit but they won't record -- up. All right thanks so much really. Appreciate that much there -- 1143 quick break back after this. 1146. Talked to will in Greenville Ohio well. Yeah I mean it's -- spammers your own online. You know there's. We got a lot of people -- understand the basics aren't going to be. I don't know what to do it's it's a crisis here it's whether it's. Man made whether it's nature -- There probably aren't gonna buy me to get home backs we plan on something like this happen that. Our whole it's going to be where my goal by now I'm not every day and I used to reduce service -- him oust house. So I I had in my mind that's are about contingency plans that aren't here -- like yeah oh yeah it's a year earlier called you know it's sort of made it home Barrett which has. -- protections shelter which we know you can -- just reading what you want to write what I -- at home I have to capability. Of survived being forced several months. On what I have my accounts right. Food water shelter that's the biggest thing anybody can can learn from any sort of prepping thing -- -- Listen I'm not -- I'd never been in the military I've never been -- move in any sort of survival class. I'm just so and eagle scout that's all about local. -- don't do well me too and it it just makes sense folks one of my. Principles in life and I try to teach this to my children is you've got to have a plan B. And you've got to know you don't have to know a lot but you've got to know something about self sufficiency. You know at a time when no welfare seems to be the number one occupation in the country there's an article out about that. It is more critical than at any time in my lifetime. That people just what I think that it is common sense but that just spend a moment thinking what would I do. What what if this happen and you're right well it doesn't have to be. Like in American blackout a cyber attack on the power grid in the country that -- to be a terrorist attack. It could -- -- we're heading into the winter time of the year. You you might wanna think of it as what what I do if an ice storm comes through sometime in January or February and and the power's out for you know week. What would it lawyers. He does storm we had several several years ago where it was two weeks you know power and I had I had -- -- children are and then I was a situation. Where it was like I had a group. I had no way do well. And so that that triggered the I don't know what would be the good gusting -- that we do not feel helpless. Our first or think clearly. It would feel helpless. Children all lost because you haven't prepared. But that's what scarred her Italian in my I do not want to be the guy -- welcome. How many times you hear me say. You win this. Happens and I believe it will happen. Yet the last place that you wanna think about going are being. Is at a grocery store and you don't wanna be there because everybody olds is going to be there and there's some of these scenes in this American blackout. -- just the difficulty I mean the safety of even just going outside. So you need to think and I'm -- regiment and something else. You mentioned children. And one of the most deficit I've gone through this thinking process I can write a book about this if I was just disciplined enough. But one of the things that I spent a lot of time on is what about children whether they're your own your grandchildren or are your neighbors -- And one of the thoughts that really will rip you to the core is what if I have prepared for this and then somebody's got -- hungry child. What will I do it if you're giving up my food water. Would put in jeopardy my child my grandchild survival and and that's one of the difficult things and in what is the Christian thing to do in in this case. But it but spend a little time as you mentioned young children. You think about to die purse. Think about. Food. Whatever -- child is think about water think about how you're gonna. Occupied them. If in case it's something where they have to be inside you know 440. And there's no there's no power there's there's no. There's no iPad. There's no computer there's no television what would you do. New orders I think. What we also need to do is we're doing right now is encouraged others you know what we do it after this that that. Store that we had -- Soweto. Did you know I don't. 200000 dollars just dumped into -- So -- dollars out of our group budget. And there's just bought can't mainly an extra little bit and it it added up over time that you know there's been times when there's been more bill's been checked. My arm bands we can't be doing that but it -- there. I don't try to emergencies true and so what to do it may actually encourage our neighbors the worst thing to do -- to be isolated. Have all that why you don't know your neighbor. Yeah and people need to learn how to keep in mind my grandparents did it. And it's so my in laws do it today I mean my goodness how many times do you have a little extra food it may be prepared be prepared to much we all do that. We know there's a way to put that in a jar if you know how to candid and it'll be great for a long long time. You know don't just they can stick it in the freezer because -- -- -- may -- operate -- the power goes out anyway will. Appreciate the call very much. All right I promise this earlier so let me finish the show -- have you heard about the tweeting brawl. A great marketing company. I have created the first. Tweeting draw. As part of a campaign from nest leaf fitness. To celebrate Breast Cancer Awareness Month this month. These social networking broad uses a special mechanism. That is hidden under the -- -- the -- And win it is on hoped based signal is sent to a cell phone which in turn notifies a server and it generates. -- -- As the father of three dollars. Because the only eat at at at bat after I've had wedeman I'm trying to remember my teenage years. High school. 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