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The Russ Cassell Show 11/27/2013 Hour 3

Nov 27, 2013|

Obamacare and religious freedom - Hobby Lobby case goes to SCOTUS; Weather

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This is the -- castle show the power and charge my batteries specialists are right down obviously. These big story is the weather. Nothing else. Pretty much matters. Let me try to share some information. With you folks okay because I know -- go on. To find -- way. And here's what the National Weather Service is saying winter weather advisory is in fact if the bottom count. If the central and southern mountains of North Carolina. As well as the Blue Ridge Mountains -- county north. Periods of light to moderate snow brief period of sleep also possible. And temperatures falling and that will result. And the widespread areas of black ice. What they're saying for Montgomery County. Occasional snow all. Ending by new new black guys may develop. Accumulations anywhere from one to two inches along and around -- along with a Trace a vice. There will be locally higher amounts of snow. And you may -- in some bands of snow described as heavy snow. So some roads may become treacherous. As us some of those black ice develops. And the wet grounds also gonna result perhaps. In some trees coven that. Now that's in the temperatures falling into the lower thirties also the other problem. In some areas the wind is going to be a problem. I know in North Carolina they're talking anywhere from fifteen to thirty miles an hour some gusts. In my reading this right yes I am up to fifty miles an hour. Now that this is for our friends at North Carolina winter weather advisory means periods of snow. -- Carlson travel difficulties. So use caution if you're out there driving a winter weather advisory for black ice means really freezing of roads is going to occur. Now the high wind warning. And by the way that winter weather advisory in effect until 6 o'clock tonight. And the high wind warning remains in effect until six. Not just for the North Carolina foothills but also be central North Carolina mountains and portions of these South Carolina mountains. So you gotta watch out for the strong and gusty north eight northwest wins. They're gonna increase sharply as the day goes on. They should peak around. Well really mid day. And then gradually weaken later on this afternoon and early tonight but. Northwest winds even for the South Carolina mountains 25 to 35 miles an hour and you could hit a wind gust to fifty miles an hour. Fifty miles an hour you you guys and gals out there and a big rigs. You get hit with a fifty -- cost you you better be really really careful so yeah and all this sub. Got the ground that so you got these gusty winds and so likely. That's gonna bring down trees in some areas and could affect power in some areas. So. I would say from the information that then I've been able to gather here. Dad. The effects will be obviously worse. The higher or the elevation. And the closer you get to North Carolina. Here in the upstate is just it's pretty stoic in Chris -- amid falling a bit about an hour now. You Sarah Flynn after a little over an hour we are there right around 9 o'clock and we've seen the big flakes and we've obscene to see all of these tiny place it and it. Are are you still getting calls some people go and are you you folks crazy is not doing anything where I am a I haven't gotten a call like that no I haven't -- it well. I eighty if you look at the radar looking at the radar right now this is just the it's the end. Of that big storm that's been passing through and it's kind of wrapping around in capturing some of this cold air. -- partner fox Carolina has this on their web site. That is fox Carolina dot com. Snow will pilot from western North Carolina through tomorrow or today rather as colder air rushes and this is according -- -- Unstable catch some of that cold air and moisture and it will lead to a few snow showers. Fox getting dozens of reports. They say about 9:30 this morning. About snow falling across parts of Pickens Greenville and Spartanburg county. Kendra said the upstate won't see any accumulation of snow. But it will be more of a novelty events if you're looking for a little -- no. Watch out well right now she said 9 AM to noon. And that's exactly what's going on. -- ask and ye shall receive Josh in Boiling Springs just called us and said there's nothing up there and hasn't been there you go so I think it's very isolated. And then -- saying after this. Time does -- thing. It's gonna clear off. And in the wind is going to be the big story it's going to be very strong. The mountains so we'll see snow pretty much due out today especially. If you're traveling up but toward the Tennessee border. -- let me put -- a call for anybody who's you -- come that way. Give us a report or you know where you are this morning. You're welcome to -- talk about the weather. Which is kind of cool I like it. Especially the day before Thanksgiving. Or any other topic that you would like to talk about one of the big topics today is religious freedom. Karen is up there in Shelby North Carolina Karen what what's the weather like up there. I don't know. And any accumulation at all. On just pretty to look at what are you make your comment about these stories about religious freedom. Yeah I just want decided it if anybody wants a clear understanding of our founders' original intention there can -- -- -- call the American Heritage series but I would bark bark and you can get in the wall builders dot com he doesn't debate they'll. Of how the founders had the Supreme Court originally made at a back ram and that was about why it intention. Because I did not intend for the Supreme Court to have much power. And now go to the big -- how you know the court case that took. Prayer and and by operating out of the school yeah and it's. It's pretty shocking on -- watch them for the first time it was -- I had never heard that didn't. It was just. It's enlightening to find out what the original intention was. You know it's. -- a bit twisted admit interpreted -- supplied so much. I really thank Chad you know the average American -- -- -- information prayer. And -- operating never would have been taken out in the first place. -- And it. You can certainly make the argument that since that happened that things are pretty much gone downhill. -- -- You know it's like to me it's like as long as we can be kept in the dark you know big poster right outside. You know you know -- -- lights while BLDRs dot com. The American Heritage series it sounds really great spirit to go to the different big tale of different court cases and the some court cases that were won almost not a religious freedom and it's encouraging that it is. Well that's why I was encouraged earlier when we were talking about. And I don't know how widely reported this will be but we have made a public charter school over in New York. That is decided to lift a band that they had placed on. Religious Christmas songs that the band over the air. Was gonna played fed now not the words just to music to Georgia the world O come all ye faithful in a school official. Had and in this is what you have to watch out for these anonymous school officials. But -- obviously with an agenda and claimed that. Heard the AC EO you or one of these other groups that we hear about. The freedom from religion folks of the American humanist association. That this school was not allowed to do dad and but somebody at the school said wait a minute we gotta check this out and they discovered that this official. Was acting on their -- And they reversed the ban thanks to the alliance defending freedom folks. Who responded after some concerned parents let him know. And that they quickly reversed this band and because the student this school have prohibited. These students to pick these songs than the band director said you can pick songs and they picked Jordan the world O come all ye faithful over New York. We're told we can do that. But somebody stood up and not a -- the alliance defending freedom folks. Have sent a letter I think you went out last week to more than thirteen thousand school districts. Saying it -- you know. You people say this all the time but it's just not true. The constitution is clear. There one of things they said. Every court. Who's ever gotten a case about this and examine this issue has determined. That including for example religious Christmas carols in school music programs. Fully complies with the First Amendment. And the constitution allows the inclusion. Are religious Christmas carols in school productions. And there's senior legal counsel Jeremy to Tesco said now that this school with the your repertory academy. Has. Reverse this ban. These kids will be allowed to proceed. With the music that they've been rehearsing and working on so Horford. So bottom this information out there and that's what these groups depend on that people will be scared and not stand up all you have to do this in the letter threatened a lawsuit. And sadly. These folks who came -- it won't back down. And then Karen we had this thank you for the call we had this. Story and seems like we get one of these just about every day or two now. The American humans just humanist association has sued a teacher in Missouri. -- who dared to. Get this folks to pray. For a sick and injured student. There's this. Teacher when -- Dared to organize a project to help feed hungry children. And she dared. To own a Bible. And they -- And you know they have no grounds there either but it doesn't keep them from front. And then one of the big stories we haven't gotten to today -- you maybe think covered with your mention of the Supreme Court. Yesterday. The Supreme Court agreed to hear. Some billions vs hobby lobby stores ink. So religious liberty and the free expression thereof. Is front and center. As we head into Thanksgiving the show mall couldn't wrote about this we talked about a hobby lobby before it wasn't that long ago. I think it was this year greens. But the green family owns and operates hobby lobby and he he came in spoke I've -- partner right Bob Jones. Anyway you know by hobby lobby. They air they have challenged they are fighting the constitutionality. Or I should say the -- constitution that -- of the provision in Obama care that mandates abortion coverage. And Michelle Morgan writes about this hobby lobbies faithful owners deserve our thanks and praise. As they defend the freedom of conscience for all Americans. She describes hobby lobby. As a quintessential American dream founder David Green. Started out maybe you never heard the story that Richard distort he started out making mini picture frames. In his garage in Oklahoma in 1970. He recruited his two sons mark and Steve detention at an early age. The first hobby lobby store -- was in a tiny 300 square feet of retail space. They now own nearly 600 stores across the country they employ thirteen thousand people. Two billion dollars in sales in 2009. But the real story here is the green family's Christian faith this this is how they do business. They are dedicated to integrity service for their customers Morgan rights and their employees their debt free company. They freely commit to quote honoring the lord in all they do. By operating the company in a manner consistent. With biblical principles as well as serving their employees and their families. By establishing a work environment and company policies that build character and strengthen individuals. And nurture families. They noting more than 10% of their income every year to chairing. All their stores are closed on Sundays to allow employees more family and worship time in other words. Hobby lobby. Is a company dedicated to biblical principles. And that's what led them in April to raise full time employees starting minimum wage to fourteen dollars an hour at a time. When a lot of other companies. Have been forced to slash wages and benefits. -- said this today degree in the CEO we believe that it is by God's grace that hobby lobby has endured. And he has blessed us and our employees we not only added jobs and a weak economy we've raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full time employee started 80% above the minimum wage. And many of their employees are single moms working two jobs. And he says he doesn't need federal mandates to tell him how to -- and retain good employees he does it because it's the quote right thing to do. While other companies have been forced to drop health insurance for their shrinking worst work forces. Hobby lobby -- borders open and on site comprehensive health care and wellness clinic in 2010 and guess what there are no -- place. Though employs a hobby lobby are covered under the company's self insured health plan. Which brings us back to the legal case he remember we talked about this folks last September. Hobby lobby sued the feds over obamacare is preventive services mandate which forces. Christian owned and operated businesses to provide without co -- abortion inducing drugs including the morning after pill. In their health insurance. The company risked fines of up to one point three million dollars a day for defying Obama. As a -- Wyndham senior counsel for the Becket fund for religious liberty said and and they're representing hobby lobby. In this court battle. Quote Washington politicians cannot force families to abandon their faith just earn a living. Every American including family business owners like the greens. Should be free to live and do business according to their religious beliefs. So this summer. They tenth Circuit Court of Appeals exempted. Hobby lobby from the abortion mandate in obamacare and allow the businesses. To avoid crippling fines while the case was still pending so. Just announced yesterday the Supreme Court. Will decide. As -- show mall can rights whether Democrat party pandering trumps bedrock constitutional principles. Now who knows. What does supreme court's gonna do these days but at least it's going. To the Supreme Court. Balkan puts it this way every employee is aware. If they work and hobby lobby of the of the the way the family. Feels and and their principles and the -- the history of the company. Every employee is aware of the -- work ethic in face of the greens no one's forced to work and hobby lobby. It has Morgan posted I think she's right of workers one birth control they can pay for themselves. It's just that simple. So we'll see lets -- as smoke and says let's pray. The Supreme Court truly does see delights. I mean it's an argument against federally mandated health care benefits enforced by government in violation of religious liberty. And subsidized by employers and to our. Spears against their will plain and simple. So that's huge news. There's a lot of this news today as we head in the Thanksgiving for goodness sakes. It's time for all of us to speak out. And let everybody know where we stand folks if you understand freedom of religion. If you really do understand. What the constitution says about it the free expression thereof how could you possibly. They did this president has any standing. To demand that a company. Go against their religious belief and their religious faith. Especially over something as atrocious. That's abortion. Even you Obama night supporters how in the world why would you think that anybody. Should be forced to abandon their religious principles just because the president. Who has spoken about this doesn't want to inconvenience quote quote his daughters should they become pregnant. Just because. He comes up signs a law. That I think is clearly unconstitutional now again. Who knows how the Supreme Court will decide on this but it's going to be a big story going forward. Curry Tim -- three let's talk to Mike inland from hi Mike. There keeper of the council. Beth -- -- by the way this though is just about stopped here and I see a little blue sky. Look in down toward Atlanta. There's no you're probably just felt the need but it's still -- year they've got a dusting to -- instrument and about a hundred -- -- visibility. It's it's a beautiful it's personal column. Yeah it was pretty while it lasted here that's for sure. I'm -- now wait a broad you have mentioned that the Supreme Court now. Unfortunately they don't read it in America more read up on the wall ideas about how to end the war and a little representation at all that this government the Obama recount is not our government is content and over and people need to realize that. But think about it Mike. I know common sense doesn't make much sense anymore but think about this for a second how how could the Supreme Court decide to. They had a law. Which is clearly against what the constitution says. Should -- how how good what what what argument could they come up with. Then Obama to that Obama has the right to force hobby lobby or anybody else. To provide these types of things when it's clearly as they say against their their faith their their beliefs. Obama so he's not -- -- -- dictator. -- people don't know this for about two months ago America was handed over to the United Nations. Columns. Don't think it's in order -- -- you -- -- -- where it would have been all right but also if you rewrite the constitution must not well known yet what -- -- -- what happens. Are you sir thank you and happy Thanksgiving to you Mike. And an interest in how we could spend. All year long working with Turkey's membership to sit down deep problem. Papa Papa. And yes it is a a a a thank you so much. RA did it mile high. I -- thank you for taking my call -- and happy Thanksgiving to -- I'm impressed I just one and to target something when you this school officials. Order let's face some sports event organizers and they come and they -- Well you cannot say the pledge of the legion though that you cannot say these and that and Debian -- that they give you is that. All because it's gonna offend non Christian and but even that did during that it has nothing to do it offending other religions it has absolutely nothing to do than that. -- just fewer than it took about their own agenda. They have because the obvious thing there is. So who you can -- Christian but you can't offend a non Christian. Yet you feel like I don't want to limit viewing it I called -- -- station and you look -- to me I mean that many Christmas I hope they do you hate medic could not do it till I don't have a problem. Then people say that to me. And I don't have a problem saying that the other people. So what I'm saying that they had just human being to be non Christian people and saying well -- if they'd they'd be able be offended by that the higher they had on issues. I've never understood how anybody could be offended by prayer I've never understood. How anybody could be offended with -- wishing them anything that is marry or anything that is happy. How how can you be offended by that but the bottom line is. If you're offended that's your problem is not mine anyway thank you -- 1027. You're listening to the -- castle show. This is their Russ -- show the power and charge my batteries specialists. It's 1034 -- what people really jealous it's really does depend on World War -- Because. 1520 minutes thirty minutes ago I mean it was just like snowing like crazy here at our studios now you see a few snowflakes. But I'm looking at the where's the windows are situated here I'm looking straight down south 85 and I -- blues guys. So. Pretty exciting though to get a little snow here the day before Thanksgiving. Sorry we're also talking about and by the way you talk about what ever is on your mind. These -- advantage talk lines or for that they've been really busy this morning Greenville 232. 9673. Spartanburg 5749673. And we must have struck a chord with some lefties because they're all aboard the WOR -- line that number 71307. I don't know if this is the Anthony. It's signed Anthony and Taylor's. -- instead of donating money to Children's Hospital you need to write checks to Planned Parenthood. The only children's organization. That as the best interest of the children in mind. Yeah. By killing them play the guy yesterday who thought that all white people should be destroyed. All entities since several Russ hobby lobby -- Easter clothes. If they won't offer abortion benefits to all males in their company. Kill babies is the top priority of the Obama party remember elections have consequences Obama won. So you and all working people need to help pay for our infanticide. Right. Ross. For profit companies. Need to follow the law. What's next. AAA breaking child labor laws on religious grounds from now on I will boycott. Of the Abiola. And that's fine but you're right. Jim you've picked a bad example -- check flight. This and there are a lot of young people. I call them children. Their work that -- play. And you know I talked to those kids. Those those young people who work at triple. You know I've never met one of them. One of them. That have anything critical to say about -- -- Matter of fact. I like going to trickling. I like I like what they so and I liked the way they sell. Is it is it just me. AAA has the best drive true of any chain I've ever experienced. You always get your food quickly but you always have a nice human person. Into cheerfully drive -- told them this. Because I wanna know how much I appreciate. They're they're you can just tell by the looks on their faces they're good kids. They've been trained well. They're polite. They're courteous they go out of their way. To make sure that they're they're doing their job. There's this great kids. So. I don't understand the part of the takes what's next should play breaking child labor laws on religious grounds got to be kidding me. But anyway and it is once things were talking of. At the Supreme Court agreed yesterday. To take of this case that provision of obamacare. That require is. Companies to have cover birth control for their employees. Supreme Court said they will take up this issue it's divided the lower courts -- -- roughly forty lawsuits. From for profit companies. Who were asking that that this be done away with and its on the basis of religious freedom. The course considering two cases one is hobby lobby. And the other is an appeal from. Content comes -- would special -- court that's a company in Pennsylvania. They employ 950 people they make wood cabinets. Lower courts have rejected. These two companies claims the court said the cases will be combined. For the argument before the Supreme Court. The arguments will probably be in late march. And we could have a decision. By late June and again. These cases center on a provision of obamacare. That requires most employers. That offer health insurance to their workers to provide. A whole range of preventive health benefits including contraception. In both instances these two companies owned and operated by Christian families they say that insuring some forms of contraception use. Violates their religious beliefs. In the key issue is whether profit making companies. Can actually a search. Their religious beliefs under the 1993. Religious freedom restoration act. Or the course the First Amendment provision which guarantees all of us the right to believe in worship as we choose. It was four years ago that the Supreme Court expanded. The concept. Of corporate personhood. In the -- Citizens United case. And saying that the corporations have the right to participate in the political process the same way that individuals do so bad that can be a key part of this. Richard is in travelers rest -- Richard. Any rebel group quick couple sites. Outlined below eight Beers and I never -- really. You know understood it. Our son and how we were talking in my event and we're talking about it -- -- my you know -- And it looks -- that's what -- OK if I'm wrong christianity don't basically don't go -- underground -- store right. But I don't -- And wrong in. Eternity long time the planet outside our overall bill look like real quick -- heard -- from my. -- You sit there you don't do it well the court got it well -- big deal. To create mayhem. -- gaga really goes. Ego aside just became so I -- -- and collect votes and go out and you know pop up to a -- command. I'm not I'm adopted okay. Adios. Stayed a bucket demonstrate and demagogue it and that's cheating has got a bucket that's just. Well really created everything east don't that's been created. And I -- -- Japan tested and that's what I believe and I'll stop believing that. Well I wanna go back here earlier argument because I used the same argument with a young man who was. Who was questioning in his life and I and I said OK if if if I'm wrong. Then then yeah you're just you're just bury me you know no big deal. But you're wrong. If you're wrong you're gonna suffer for eternity do you wanna take that chance. And -- a man thought about it for a second he said. I see your point. I mean it's Israel or play the odds I mean come on -- thank you thank you Richard. Kelly is in Spartanburg hi Kelly. -- they do and they are doing well thank you. Question is. -- -- -- -- -- to a point states but there's total state we have the thought dole out on opposite. Or you'll play you'll already injure children don't want the work he's not quite got a job I'm not well I don't have to keep -- -- reported seeing you. You know coming they won't buy it part why should operate at -- Does an excellent point. Head -- but what is. What what is he gonna do you think. How will he actually get the message you're trying to communicate. And actually take a little -- you know personal responsibility. Willie get the point where to go out and find a job do something. As heck when I was grown up bite I'd that you -- cut grass I work two or three jobs I mean Willie get the point are not. All know how many kids want everything handed -- home today you all -- our entry in this column on Magruder. We've worked to get what we -- army told our October -- addresses don't you go to College Hockey the only answer tester but once you. Don't wanna read it yourself I think your own your home. That you individual responsibility. So you know its own. Now I'm sure there's some people listening to your right now on the radio thank -- boy you're really mean how could you be so mean Kelly to your children. 08 Giuliani you know that. It but it got to grow up sometime. Well. -- -- used to be the case but so each -- more as these kids I don't think they'll ever grow up. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Our you know if I don't own a big developing an -- like this is a poll about the government on this obamacare. It is able to let everybody know we're gonna play unable it will go to jail. -- People and well. Well more well. We may -- about it if you got a I got a point or boarded up hours -- they don't at every Sergio. Flat tire -- many people did you adopt but you don't watch every Churchill. Well I think the the -- about it part. But but then -- it -- think of what that does to the economy because if everybody is part time. Then people are making less money and they have less money to spend on any thing which is you know the grocery store the gas station which is what makes. There that the whole economy go and plus as you get cut your hours not only can you not afford insurance. But -- you can't afford much of anything and pretty soon you're you're lined up to try to see what government benefits you can get so be it it's bad for the economy. Early but the government -- secure anyway. Know what they do care because their goal. Is that said the government basically employs everybody. That they -- the government provides benefits for everybody because that's what gives you total control again it's about control. I mean if this comes up over the Thanksgiving. Table. You -- John people do you really believe the government. Should control any and all aspects of your life what how much your freedom how much your liberty are you willing to give up. For these things that really don't mean a lot in the long run freedom and liberty. Yeah your right to determine. How are you gonna live your life is far more important. Than any of these so called benefits. That's the message. Thank you Kelly good luck with your child 1045. Quick break back in a moment. All right 1049. -- away from eleventh glad you're with us on live and local WORD. 1063. The rust -- shoulders -- your next time. Roadside just -- -- my hobby lobby in this case coming up and I played good as -- -- -- -- Visalia are wholesale hobby lobby can William. They did lose -- bloody -- and win. Well there's so I screwed that one BO there was the only bit this is an Illinois I think about getting your WNYC went into -- Catholic Church. She heard a pretty speaking seriously evil of abortion. Bush just probably Carol -- court and she won't and against the Catholic Church because the priest was preaching or something that will -- legal -- to do and you had an abortion -- defended. Well it went on up through the appellate -- got the very Illinois State Supreme Court and they ruled for the Catholic Church. And this -- -- and read only worse is that at the church being incorporated. It would have had to abide by the -- -- state but since it was not incorporated. It was under its own jurisdiction before its own conscience. Why did you it will lead. Well an incorporation nothing they bought out of displayed in which it's incorporated -- yeah. Amend the constitution. Makes no just a constitutional and property corporation. And -- you can forget the constitution what are about your religious needs. Per Diem you're not come -- to -- to talk -- -- incorporation. -- juggle all understudy let me clarify I'm told -- about religious freedom. Applies to every. Living breathing Americans. I agree with -- armed but they're under corporation and living breathing American or more efficiently is made up a -- Animal rights. Well understood our -- I know what I -- from a little later on just hundreds corporation -- I don't abide by the law. A red flag you're worried about or. You know if what if what your saying is the way the court goes on this. Then it didn't I'm telling you you might as well -- to constitution what we know what we're all pretty putting aren't so pretty it's pretty mile away on I mean all of a sudden. There there is no. Americans certainly no religious organization. In within the boundaries of the United States of America. Who can continue to do what they are dedicated to do it. Where there's only -- stand there and call eight. Record I urge you know -- operated no you're not even listen to me listen to me. I don't care whether there incorporated they're not out what I'm saying is. This will begin the process. So that that that you won't matter when you're incorporated to not what I -- sicker and what I see this history. Is a direct assault. On freedom. You you get and all the legal legal things about incorporated nods when I say I think it's a direct assaults. On freedom. You -- the news could very good Obama administration is never -- -- rumours have been covered trying to look Karl Rove and all that you agree but I'll tell you Obama freely live out our political -- and you know. -- know that and another indication of the exact thing that I'm talking about how this administration. That is going to go after anybody and any thing that they disagree with and ended. The audacity I've I've got the story I'm gonna leave with a at the top of the hour because this a big story the IRS after all the problems that we've seen. They instead of Bob backing down Obama. Has said we're gonna have even more regulations to restrict free speech or just -- and the First Amendment that protects religious freedom. What are -- I don't get a really good frontier that you do -- thank you to call. Oh my goodness yeah I've got that story coming up because it is huge and 1053 now a quick break back after this news weather traffic and sports. WORT. Very good seconds left -- I'm proud of hobby lobby and chick -- no one should be required. Cover birth control birth control is not. Health care -- I'm wagering the Supreme Court decision on contraception comes down to John Roberts and voting to break a four. Ford -- -- Supreme Court will side with hobby lobby because they are complicit with this train wreck. We call. Obamacare. I'll have to wait and state. -- -- and we'll get an update on the news here one more big hour ago. We're -- us here on the roster castle show for this Wednesday before Thanksgiving 11 o'clock.