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The Russ Cassell Show 12/9/2013 Hour 2

Dec 9, 2013|

Political Christmas Parades - "Stop Common Core" signs banned from Easley parade, and Greenville parade has float promoting Obamacare

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This is the rust doesn't show. Power and charge my batteries specialists. Get -- sometimes you come in on -- Monday and it's like okay. What really happened over the weekend blah blah blah talk of what I guess what I'm trying to say it's. Sometimes -- on Monday actually come in here and I'm I'm bordering on being bored to. Because a lot of topics of the same you know I can bring up obamacare it's no problem to do for our show at all that it just sometimes it bores me what I life. Is coming in here and mean what I say when I say we do live and local show. It our job here and people are giving us feedback yet this is the show to listen to when you. We wanna know what's going on around here and many times you know we break this news on this program which is what really gets gets me going. And at this money morning is speck case of that probably some stories that you haven't heard about but I'm Richard good to hear about. So let's get right to and in the meantime remember the rule whatever's on your mind whatever. Important use what what I am most interested in it can be national can be locally to be something. I really love it when is not really in the news yet. Ingles advantage talk like numbers Greenville 2329673. Spartanburg 5749673. So that's 232 WORD. In -- 574 WORD in Spartanburg. That of course we've got the WORD. Text line number that when -- 71307. Lot of things going on over the weekend Christmas for rates. This go out to one. There was -- Saturday morning in easily. And came in this morning. And folks know this is the show to come to when you when you wanna let us know something going on. And we talked with John -- rains before she lives over in Pickens County. And when the topic has come up concerning the common core curriculum in South Carolina she's she's very vocal activist there are so large group. Called SE hi softer a lot of parents and education. That you know that has been out there leading the way really. It's going to be a big issue come January in this state because we we talked with. Legislator -- bill charm last week on Friday is not a fact Kristin -- and Friday. The German daily Lewis trying to and we talked about a bill that he's got pending that would basically do away with common core. In this state. So. This trains. And I think there were 21 total people and children and adults and children. Had filed. An applicant did you filled out an application. Paid their 25 dollar fee to be in the easily Christmas parade. Sure sure above their Saturday morning parades I was over there having breakfast Saturday morning as matter of fact right there in downtown easily. And parade starting at 10 o'clock our show we saw everybody gathering around. But anyway her group were standing there and they were ready to go. They were all they had their T shirts on that day and it specially made up concerning common core of stopping it. I have some signs it had stopped common core. And that is when a parade organizer walked up to them and say -- Some witnesses and we do not allow political messages in our program it's okay. -- would have to please please bringing here. And he's clearly upset got to find himself with the city of -- Any walks off suppose he -- -- police chief. Well didn't get the police chief but he did get a police officer to come back over and the system. That whole -- out well -- let me read them but that backwards most. Police officer comes over to the -- Only thing. As the CS well. This and we cannot participate in the parade even matter Hatfield out of form to begin when you look at Sam were always big island told him exactly -- we are and what they're planning on dealing with a and now he's and we can't participate. In the event. We have saved a lot of home. Even the great yardage that you're sure zone that is wonderful and -- -- if you would just respect that request you not think it's a really great. Just no signs on -- bigger and no signs that side. Can waters well then that was good what is political about this gun can you tell me what political map and making this. The high -- needs -- most Democrats and Republicans. I can't -- and our children us and our children's future and I call it what -- -- -- requested you know. Are -- so because children were standing there there were excited about being in the Christmas parade mr. Raines and the other organizers there. Talked it over. And they decided to you know because the kids were already there. To not carry their stock common core signs. But they did march in the parade now this prompts. I think a lot of questions. And I put the question to this audience. Because there's also another story out there this morning there's -- real Christmas parade on Saturday blisters were sending me emails over the weekend. Said there was an Obama care navigator parade -- never -- float in the bright. And people didn't like that. So -- -- the big picture here is. For this audience do you are do you not want to see any thing that could in any way. Be construed to be political. In a local Christmas for. Now -- the first hour we talked about this and I would have to say from the feedback I got most people took the side I don't wanna see anything political. In the Christmas for. That's just not the time reports. Now ms. Raines who was on with the US -- simply a follow up email Ross the people who say stop common core. Does not belong in the Christmas parade do not understand the Christmas is about love of children Jesus love children. SE parents involved and education love children. That's why we're trying to inform parents of the dangers these common core standards present. To our children. With that having been said. Most of the people in this audience in the first hours ago. I don't want this now a lot of people tried to make the point. To get the Christmas parade they can best meet the same question what does it all about. And of course that most people would say well it's about Christmas here's another question for. From the Christmas -- you've seen do you think there really. Mostly about Christmas. There's a lot of Christmas parades or commercial. They're not really I mean every once in awhile yet you'll see a church. With a float. That's great. But that brings up another question I mean you may call it. The Christmas parade. But just give me your opinion most Christmas -- that you go to would you really. Could you have the opinion that they're really. About how to Christmas. And -- kind of questions to come up as -- Anything political in the Christmas parade. I'd go for years because we used to have -- and I used to ride on those floats. In agreement Christmas break and you couldn't go to operate without seeing a politician. You're believed to belong in an open air convertible. That a local leadership had it if if you can have anything political. In a Christmas parade. Then how can you have politicians. In a Christmas parade. All right so this morning. Our special correspondent -- -- and our has already been working hard here so you called the city of east I did. US to speak with the city administrator yes I got right to him and he answered his -- -- -- his famous fox Simmons. And he didn't he didn't really like get a call from you on a Monday morning. Well he may -- little surprised he hadn't heard anything about it yet hot so I knew right so now he's fully knowing her. So I explain to him you know what had happened at because he he hadn't heard about any of -- -- and so you know explained that there had been the common core group -- -- they had been told. Initially they couldn't participate in the parade even though their application had been approved right they've paid their money right texts can wait there's nothing I have -- application right here in front of me. There's nothing on this application that says anything about anything. Political not being allowed right there's no there's no restriction about what type you know and and you know a lot of people use a parade as a forum for getting -- information he hits an advertising -- right. You know for hurt key businesses for the car dealerships for. You know I know South Carolina -- to society had a parade a float in the Greenville parade and you know it's it's a that's not a political. Entity right but it's getting out information about their contract and so. That's you know that's what parades have become. What went whatever they were initially intended to be that is what they become parents -- an advertising vehicle. And you pay your feet and you know advertising -- and can you participate in the parade and did he leave parade application does not have any restrictions saying that no political. Groups will be allowed to participate or if you are political group he won't be allowed to carry signs. You know what's the difference between carrying a sign and posting a sign on your float -- -- businesses are allowed to have what did the city administrator well -- Send in these. In this morning moments ago yes just a little bit ago he. He said well are parades are not for political purposes. And so that I says okay so in the past have you never had politicians. In the parades. And he said to. Well City Council members are in the parades. And so I said so only after they've been elected or. While they're campaigning. And he said you know I need to get into a meeting -- thank you for your time and Honda. -- -- -- much that was as much as that was it yet. Well it's interesting that's an interest in reaction. Well armed in the US caught off guard -- I'll give him that he he did really -- Something -- if you're a city administrator -- you're getting paid by the taxpayers whom you're never caught off guard. You're the city administrator 24/7. He can handle it go find another job. Just that simple -- to be so Kurt about it but that -- I'm sick and tired of us. So and not that I would encourage this but I would think of course that if I were a taxpayer in Pickens County. I would call the city administrator today I would call the mayor I don't even -- C aren't I should know this but I who's the mayor -- now I even with a fairly -- he has. Amber's name but isn't it interesting if you allow when he admitted to you. If you allow old City Council members to ride in the parade. How how is that not political. I don't think it's any less political than common core and you make a good point about the ought to some folks you know our -- Trying to you know create awareness ranked. And part of that awareness is fund raising -- encouraging people to get involved why would make a difference if you're gonna allow bad. And -- is not allowing somebody to carry a sign that says stop common core. I think it's a very fine line I think it's a very good issue here -- and I think what it may very well come down to let me really go out on a limb here. It is these decisions are made by people with an agenda. That's the thing. Let me just posit the possibility. That the stock common core group. Was asked not first of all they were told they couldn't be in the parade. From a person identifying themselves as with the city of easily. Second point a police officer. Comes over. And tries to negotiated deal says fine you can be in the parade but you cannot carrier signs and we have the right. Because it is a quote quote city event to tell you. That you can't carry -- When asked about -- the law. So I don't couldn't cite the ball. The response from the police officer and easily was we are the city. We get to decide what's allowed and what's not allowed figure they can of worms that opens up case in point back to the example City Council members. And who have a great influence. On local police departments. Oh well that's not political. But -- this advocacy group trying to create awareness for very serious issue in South Carolina on the spot is deemed political. Until they -- they can't carry their sides. -- -- -- -- -- -- Also doesn't have you know you looked up the city ordinance is right in the city ordinance does not specify whether or not they can have political. Signs are political into it does not prohibit any political speech and then parades. Well I'm struck by their true so what do you if you don't publish the rules. It's not in the application you say it's not the city ordinance so they can arbitrarily. Make a marvelous use. Who they deem as political or not which no. And I haven't been let me just what is out there. I haven't had anybody else. Share with me. That their group was asked not to participate in the easily parade isn't -- interest and they edit it what -- information we have right now the only one. The only one. That was asked. First of all and you can't be in the parade even though you filled out the application weeks ago paid your money. The only and then that they've negotiated deal is you've you can be in the French can't carry your side the only one. Is the group's -- Is very concerned about the common core curriculum in the state of South Carolina. I find it very interesting and then the response you get from the city administrator I gotta go into a meeting I don't have time goodbye. So anyway thank you -- cannot appreciate that very much. So your comments on this folks. You know are welcomed this or anything else on your mind. Again -- -- advantage talk -- numbers Greenville 2329673. Spartanburg. 5749673. Men are -- like number. WORD -- 171307. So would you vote appears on Larry babble is still the mayor visually. According to what I found at city -- dot net how -- -- and Larry's got to be older than dirt. Like I think he's been -- -- here for a fault. If you're concerned about this. I would I would think the fine residents of the city of Beasley. Would at least get more of a clarification then we did. From the city administrator of -- Bob one other related note of this. Channel four had a story. Over the weekend this is up and Clayton. North Carolina. They Christmas parade organizers there decided that off. -- from a big deal bonding company. Wasn't going to be in the -- DNA bail bonding. Hat as head afloat in the Christmas braiding -- North Carolina for three years now. This year. Their entry included four girls in black and white striped costumes. Walking in front change together. -- larger than life and -- And escorted by a fake police officer. And the big old bonding company's band was pulling the float. With more people in -- costumes. What was on -- pretend that toilet. In a general sale. With Tony to the paper trailing behind. Well the great North Carolina chamber of commerce president Jim Godfrey says the float was just simply not in the Christmas spirit. The owners of the dumb DNA big deal bonds nick can go on Daniels. Say plenty of other groups have used the floats. Jail cell to raise money and they don't think it's a negative but anyway. Apparently enclave North Carolina. Having a jail cell with pseudo inmates. And one sitting on a -- it was just too much. So they they didn't allow them to be in their Christmas for. So. I guess. You gotta draw the line somewhere. And didn't play. Find your comments phone -- why don't you get right through quick break -- 43 you're listening to live and local -- castle show. -- -- text messages on this for us -- while I would not like distinct. This Christmas -- turned into a political event. I think we should make sure that constitutional rights are not violated or infringed by government or fellow citizens that comes from Brian. In Pickens. The prospect copy couldn't answer the ladies questions. But he could teller what she couldn't do. -- interest in how government doesn't want nativity scenes on government property. There's no problem with health care dot gov floats in Christmas parades. Russell was the -- being run by the city or by a private company posted by a private company. Where they acting on behalf of the city. I'm I'm not quite sure the policeman said it was a quote quote city event -- how many politicians appear in parades. -- it's called freedom of reach pretty simple. Why do these government thugs put of these government thugs think they are. The time to put them in their place is near. Were brought us thank Jenna good reporting when they hang up on you and Manger doing a good job. -- sued the city of Beasley for false advertising. For us I think most people watching the parade don't really care who's and it. As long as they throw candy by the way I look at the application. For the city of -- Christmas braided plainly says you're not allowed to throw can't. So they did thank a vet Russell -- what this is they bandy political message that they don't agree with. They obviously have a loud political floats in the past. -- no politics wanted to see Lindsey Graham of that same parade last year. Russ I would have more of an issue with the common scorer folks. If it is happening Greeneville since -- allowed to the obamacare -- -- agenda I think you've got it so sad that these folks couldn't participate in the parade and easily as they had planned thank you forget now the story. There you go folks so some of the comments. Quick call here from rob in Gaffney how to -- Where -- bit boring Grossman -- top. What. What was the way the American flag float it helps their permit and -- -- But it was not -- out step forward -- patriots Bedard and and god speed when attacked by Internet at the war. Yeah -- question in some areas of the country I'm sure it was although I can't off the top my head to remember -- If Obama ordered that. I can't remember if Obama actually did the same thing he did with Mandela. About the four who had died in -- Gaza maybe did I just don't remember it. But that was also an issue in Pickens County over the weekend too with the local sheriff. Saying he wasn't gonna fly at half staff for Mandela. -- hello we should be outraged. Barry thank you rob 930 it's news time that Russ -- show. -- and charge my batteries specialists. Merry Christmas to you and yours is hard to believe Christmas just couple weeks and couple of days away. Then we're right down to it. Well good morning on this side December the ninth in the year of our lord truly thirteen you got the -- Cassel -- live and local. Lot of things going on -- over the weekend including this controversy about Christmas parades. Dedicated to stopping the common core curriculum in South Carolina to only couldn't carry their signs at the. Easily Christmas parade after initially being told. They have them parade is not a political event you can't you can't even participate -- they did participate. But they agreed after you know being talked to by a city police officer and easily. And not to carry their signs that in Greensboro. Hopes for sending me pictures and emails over the weekend. Apparently there was an Obama care navigator. Float. In the -- Christmas parade. Also over the weekend in Pickens County this this was everywhere there's even made national news. The share from Pickens County -- Clark. Said that he is just not gonna fly the flag at half staff. In honor of Nelson Mandela. Despite an executive order from the president of the United States. Barack Obama called for all flags at the White House in public buildings and grounds military posts. Naval stations naval vessels. To lower the flag and to keep it at half staff. Through sun sets. Tonight. Out of respect for notes -- In Pickens County sheriff Clark ordered the flag to be raised to full staff yesterday. Saying that he felt flag should only be at half staff. In Mandela's honor in his own country of South Africa. Here's the quote from our news partner fox Carolina I have no problem lowering it in South Africa and their country but not for our country. It should be the people who have sacrificed for our country. It's just my simple opinion that the flag should only be lowered for Americans who sacrificed for their country. On Saturday sheriff Clark. Did a follow up after the national media attention. He said he felt the media cycle had run its course quote time to move on to the next subject because I have work to do for my community. Need to devote my time elsewhere thank you for your support and comments. I urge you to read about president Mandela over the next few days of mourning. And be inspired for public service for your community and the nation as she wants. -- although we got criticism. Over his initial post they came on FaceBook. Which was odd he said most of the fate of feedback he's received. Was from those who supported his decision. So it was a it was a busy. Busy weekend. In Pickens county and all throughout the upstate and here we are. The Monday morning quarterbacks that we tend to be to talk about it so anyway let's talk about death. -- I would expect the share from Pickens County to be investigated by the IRS. The Secret Service and even sled. Though where the long arm of Obama. -- didn't ordered the flags flown. At half staff from the Ben Ghazi victims or for lady Thatcher. When she passed away nope only for someone. Who's professed his hatred of the USA. Did Barry deemed worthy of lowering the flags for. -- just wondering does anyone else remember flag lowering from the death of other Communist presidents besides FDR parenthetically. But other world leaders. Carried a history about this quick history. That I've been able to -- find on this this goes back to Eisenhower. Eisenhower is the president. Did set up the rules he did it near my birth 1954. For win the flag. Must be flown at half staff. And yes in this country we call at half staff not half -- Other countries. For example Canada. Half -- or course on a boat. But the death of a president. -- thirty days. A vice president Tim. A congressman wanted to make. But the rules also allow. A US president to decide other periods of morning when that have staff has warned that most recently. Obama ordered the lowering of the flag to honor the victims. Of the Washington navy -- shooting. And he did it for the fiftieth anniversary. Of JFK's assassination. It is uncommon. From the US flag to be lowered in honor of foreign leaders. For example the -- Dexter mentioned Margaret Thatcher. Now Obama did issue a statement of mourning earlier this year when she passed. But he did not. You know ordered the lowering of the American flag the last time and it has been done. Although just a handful of times I think like five or six times but the last time it happened. When the flag was lowered was when Pope John Paul the second passed in 2005. So this is a controversy. And you're welcome good. Share your support the sheriff Clark in Pickens County or your criticism whatever you think about this I did that folks don't know. Although it has been brought up on numerous times on talk show moves like this. Nelson Mandela was on the US terrorist. Watch list. Until 2008. Washington Post has a store in in you know who got him off the terrorist watch list. George W. Bush. I'll get to that if there's any interest in talking about this let's talk to Jim in -- hi Jim. I wrote didn't talk to -- this morning yes there. -- but I would. Spend their which and I felt so I'm not to please -- coming. But that did it first started trying to cut your radio stations actually wanted to catch. The police. On the radio telling us that we could not air times from the -- right. I looked round. Looked around at the but there's -- are coming up well my goodness what in the world can lead. So when the policeman comes up we've Jim -- has started challenging. People. At this sport is is there's different carriers it's forbidden frank. -- -- when the policeman told me it was political a look at just know I have been talking to my legislature it is not political sort. And when we went into that. The honest truth expressed. His jaw started shaking and not think it was because he will go out. I've got a -- yeah I got the video we played the audio from the video that John Els shot. Wildest police officer was was talking to you guys. I've been invented the gist of it is that -- a lot of people are pointing out Jim. -- you -- you're talking to the legislature. About this so therefore it is political -- I think the larger question is. So what the city of Beasley as far as we've been able to tell. Doesn't say any thing about political things not being involved it wasn't on the application they took your application they took the 25 dollar -- Nobody called -- And and -- broken our actually did research into the easily city ordinance. And she tells me there's nothing in the ordinance that says you can have anything political. In this. So. I think that's the issue in other words they get to decide. On on the spur of the moment what is political and one is not. I wrote. Do what I what I what you think if it was twice the video. Will look deeply underground. Trying to get it out trying to get in touch via my opponent can't get -- because I'm trying to get to Obama. I'm also trying to get the ladies around me to do that right. It might be the audience vote take note maybe there's a way that we can excuse. I believe that this is going continue to happen as I actually talked to share for Pickens County. -- -- Build it not not about this. But in the past about. You don't protect the most from the federal lists that are coming into South Carolina ran. And to go to sporting -- from the bill in the legislature. To prevent the good too so -- shares could understand the accord the constitution the sheriff has strike protect the people of the chaotic. And he wasn't really strong about it. So are. He was really strong. That's it but back to the thing wrote about. Getting work ready you'll involved I believe I'll I thought maybe there's away at it and you can talk we have court just some of the time. That people can take -- -- that you notebook like there's not a good bit. It did work -- in that now it did happen after the fact but obviously I live with this story first chance I got it. And 8 o'clock this morning garrido five after the news. There are a lot of folks wouldn't have been aware of this but let me just say this. You can you can email me 'cause folks were emailing me about the green -- parade. While that was going on on Saturday in the yesterday. So -- you feel free to email me. You can send me video. Josh -- sent me the video that was shot and -- me the link had been swan dot com where it's posted so feel free anytime 24/7. That's what that emails for. And it's Ross @entercom.com. RU SS at ENTERCOM. Dot com. Thank you Jim appreciate it very much. Then it's one of the things I can't. -- -- -- can't be here seven days a week although I gotta tell if you're a talk show host people realize us. You're you you're really working seven days a week 24/7 whatever these if you do it right if you do it right. Bob but anyway thanks so comments about -- comments about the flag in Pickens County anything else that's on your mind. The lines are wide open on this Monday -- advantage talk once again Greenville 232. 9673. Spartanburg 5749673. W award detects line 71307. We -- spokesman a lot of time get a read to be you operate. And many times. No one every doing in a parade involves children put yourself in these folks -- Nobody soldier you can't and you show up at the event. And then you've got some city employee. Who comes up that's political which you you can't be on it I'm going to get the police chief and then a policeman comes back. And says you can only be in the parade if you don't carry your son's. Let me just go to set is that ever happened to anybody else in this audience at any Christmas parade. And of course the bigger issue. Is this the proper time and place. For these sorts of things LA Christmas for. So. You wanna share your opinion whether it's lovely here. It's like you called the mayor of the easily today in. Say what he has to say about this -- -- Rangers sent me his phone number it's 855. 795557900. Would be changed and see what's their layer Larry back won't. You would have to say about this if anything. My guess is -- could be wrong. By the way an airbag -- you as all politicians are welcome to call the program. You would use the -- a number of mayor back 02329673. But wherever you war. Spartanburg British -- area you're welcome to comment on this 5749673. Now what I don't even know what is the Spartanburg Christmas -- as an already happened was there any controversy there. Now Spartanburg has some instinct parades throughout the here. It's we talked about the year. But I so far I haven't heard any controversy. Concerning these Spartanburg for a -- a wrong way -- So is unconscionable. I mean what happened to the people's right to peaceably assemble. I cannot blame the police officer for not knowing the wall bill will not coming if the -- did not have any vulgarity alternate. I'll go look at the year vote the top volatile that this city measures and they look they got a permit you approve it it took their money so. Deal with it. -- on the then all makes perfect sense let me play devil's advocate what if you had a group show while. And they had paid their money -- fill out the application. And they had said you know nobody contacted us and I don't know -- bigger group the kkk. Well okay well it will whoever went city applications. For the people who put their application to. -- -- -- If Specter had a problem with the kkk or. The John Birch Society are what we know we Aryan Nation whatever. Then you assess them virtually books back and say sorry. You can't be and operate for you know for whatever reason but once they took the people's money the comical or people they took the check for -- to cash. And so -- of BO OK you know the permit to be in the parade then yeah that's. I don't know that window if I want to but you know you can't. They get a parade there whim to decide not one -- just demoted -- -- issue permits beat their. Then. You know I. I agree with you and again the double standard. If it's like the city administrator told our Jenna -- an hour. And I'm quoting our parades are not for political purposes. And every time they at least saying. Politicians in convertible. What the big -- almost out of there. I think we got a big problem with this if you really mean that meant. He can well this may give up as you go along apparently I guess if the European power. Or maybe maybe there's an attorney listing right there would be willing to try to cherish pro ball low and you know -- okay. We're also reaffirmed toward a golf course. Closely are you really nation. You know let's not being able to cheers coming just like yeah I I -- that we are such a litigation society. You have that would. You know show they don't look where it's like there's laying back -- -- -- -- -- -- -- He screwed up in the city of Beasley that's one thing. By not to having it clearly stated what's allowed and what's not allowed but I what bothers me is making it up on the spur of the moment and deciding. That having assigned -- a stock common core is just something outrageous not to be allowed thanks runway right 954.