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Vitamin studies say supplements don't help prevent heart disease and memory loss; Children prescribed an increasing amount of anti-psychotic drugs

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This is the -- -- Broward and charge my batteries specialists all right five and a half past nine let's go check it you're right up to. Program welcome man. From the Los castle show privilege on the pleasure -- Christmas happy new year. To you and yours whatever -- on your mind define making goals advantage hotline numbers. In the greater Greenville area -- 2329673. Integrators Spartanburg area 5749673. Other way to put them rebuild Q3 two W a RD Spartanburg 57 -- WORD. Most people these days wanna check to make. And that's fine. WORD. Text -- number is seven. 13070. Okay and I thought there might be a lot of interest in this if we have a lot of news to cover between one story. Out today. I look at it that went OK. Am I doing the right thing or MI just wasting money MI just foolish. Because every day in my life. I like many of you. I take vitamins and supplements I take fourteen different vitamins and nor supplements. Every single morning of my life. And yet today. Foxnews.com to source two major studies have found. Dead multi vitamins don't seem to protect aging men's brains. Or prevent further heart disease among people who've already had a heart attack. Studies out yesterday the annals of internal medicine the latest to test if popular supplements might go that extra step. And they both concluded they don't. Millions office spends billions. Of dollars every year on vitamins. We take him for a lot of different reasons. We think they help us. I I went through this process myself I said it makes sense. The way food is these days. And I try to grow a lot of my own through one of the reasons I do is I know what senator Edward came from. But it's been written about widely held through these days doesn't have the nutrient quality that it should have. And so I decided years ago. Then I'm gonna supplement. Course the government. Has been chomping at the bid for a long time. To regulate this. Some people have made the case that the government shouldn't regulate this and so ice my suspicion is. That's where this whole thing is sweet. One of the finding just today evidence is sufficient to advise against routine supplementation. -- -- -- -- Said most people who -- a multi vitamins and other supplements are generally help to even junk food often she says. Is fortified with vitamins when -- junk food is fortified with vitamins. While she says the main nutrition problem in this country's too much fat and calories. Quote people should be active should not over -- should avoid excessive alcohol. And should not be spending money on these pills these vitamins and minerals. She told Reuters. Here's what they did to study the effect of vitamins on thinking and memory skills. The researchers randomly assigned about 6000. Older male doctors. To take either a multi vitamin. Given the men up to four -- memory tests over the next twelve years. Researchers found no. Cognitive difference. Between the vitamin and placebo groups and scores on memory tests. Did not drop any faster among men in one group vs together. That's one study the circuit one. Used a similar method involves 17100. Protests opens. And they found that 27%. Of people taking vitamins. Died or had another heart attack or other cardiovascular problem. Compared to the 30% of participants. Who took the placebos. Other researchers say the jury still loud. Especially for the country's most commonly used dietary supplement. Multivitamin it's. They're taken by about a third of US adults and even more people. Who were over the age of fifty. There's something about his people get older today -- older man I've I've actually had a conversation about this with my doctor before. -- -- -- -- The US preventive services task force. Is deliberating whether vitamin supplements make any difference in the average person's risk of heart disease or cancer. In a draft proposal last month the government advisory group said for standard multi vitamins and certain other nutrients. There's just not enough evidence to -- but they cautioned. That to single supplements. Beta carotene and vitamin. And they're gonna make a final decision next year. Here's a quote from doctor Howard says so of Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. He helped lead a larger multi vitamin study. That had mixed results he said for better or worse. Supplementation is not going to go away. Suggesting that small benefits. For some health conditions but not for others -- says more researchers needed especially. Among these less helped a quote. There's no substitute for preaching a healthy diet and good behaviors such as exercise office. So what about this Richard in Greer wanted to come -- and Richard. According Merry Christmas catcher. By the way are reported to vitamins. Because that's what it is not about supplements in general I think your question indictments -- -- But to say you'd I think kind of previous show or show you mentioned that different things that they are doing just. Take -- Christmas so to speak to usher in I don't know if you heard what that there are many municipalities now considering an ordinance. Prohibiting -- from sang ho -- They're afraid -- because of gangsta rap -- -- the word to if you don't like the wrong idea about -- attitude towards women you know right right right so. And I apologize for that although I've been done here since 78 originally from pile of questions -- restored tends to be a little bit on the corny side no problem. I personally in my high fat high sugar high salt high camping I nicotine diet have been for years really. Well if -- do you do Richard. I'm doing pretty good I just took turns 62. Really good -- -- you know. Didn't intend you know it's the nature vs -- -- sort of things so. I'm paying it and there -- got through bureau arterial blockages thanks to sidestep. I've got -- issues not not really -- the nicotine that's due to. Exposure to a phone to support important time when they used to do a lot of keeping -- climbing. But. The vitamins I take because I haven't treated my body the way I should have the bite humans that I take multi vitamin. And vitamin C I think have been a big help and I do you take the visual one net change to help keep my cholesterol pill which -- not -- -- What my heart in my heart doctor is big on official. They don't fish oil benefactors of prescription strength. Fish oil. That I take -- that is called -- -- VA CA. And he did he just raves about so. I mean come on fish oil is I guess you would say supplementation. And and yet the one you see it in grocery stores you see -- in drugstores. Is everywhere these days and there was a recent study that says study that instead it was a bunch of -- quality it's a bunch of bond. Why -- why is my doctorate trained doctor. So much in favor of it. But you know what I think the multi -- is definitely help they don't you know they provide Trace elements and all that to which we need -- in a lot of times don't get toward diets. I don't think overall. You can really make a case for saying that the auto vitamins -- They'd probably help you with some waste now can they prevent heart attacks and that thinking cognitive. It erosion or whatever. This -- he's saying no but that doesn't mean they can't that a picture a lot of other ways by Edmonds -- of particular I think there's. Well I've been here about that all my life if you vitamin C especially this time of year. You know helps fight off colds and stuff. I don't know that it really helps by the market option prepare them what you get him. But you got but I've always heard. The very supplements I take boost your immune system in your immune system if it's boosted. You know helps you fight all Foley's germs -- come passing -- but anyway thank you Richard. Tons of text message I can't read a mall Ross the government already regulates our food. And look how much is allowed in our food that's not allow and other countries. Russ anytime you can grind up your vitamins in a smooth -- shake you'll be doing your money and body better. Hard vitamins you only get about 15% of -- that is true it's all about absorption. -- I heard a little bit of Michael Savage last night and he talked about this vitamin study. He has a Ph.D. In nutrition. And he says the scientists saying that vitamins aren't any good is akin to the scientists say humans cause global warming in other words it's a hoax. He also says. That vitamin supplementation is good for you most doctors don't know the right combinations or dosages. To prescribe. It brings -- a great point. What are what are your doctor -- conversation with your doctor about vitamins or supplements. I -- it just in my own experience which sadly has been way to budge. I'm just finding more more doctors. Think that this is a good idea. Ross I -- a son with mitochondria. Old disease co -- tennis often treatment. Our bodies can absorb enough of it to make much of a difference what you buy off the shelf is typically fifty milligrams or -- -- wasting your money. Let's hear Ross. Common sense would dictate. What -- genetically modified foods growth hormones. Antibiotics. Fast food every day life and stress that supplementation. Is beneficial. I will take supplements till the day I die. -- Hearing this story I'm wondering. If all those prenatal. Vitamins then or useless. Even. Seems like the official. Pharmacy. Doesn't like missing their cut of the money action. That cousin John wrote that well that's an excellent point. How many have you. Or expecting right now or maybe just had a baby or to remember from years ago one of the things that. The OB GUYUN's always talk about is the importance of taking three NATO vitamins I mean. I remember world when my middle daughter had my grandson. Earlier this year we you know we we were talking about all this -- gas it you know which you get an orange juice oranges -- stuff. Indeed there just seems to be a mixed message and all of this. And I am sure seven I'm just telling you call me crazy but call me but I -- and I got to tell you. I think this is a sneaking away that the government is both gonna make the case they're gonna come in and protect us. From wasting our money and if they want to regulate this. But she -- six I guessing. Hey wrote thanks a tegra called it Yasser I have released over five years -- nutritional state. Market talk about this all day long and real shortage you have to do or say they don't get our. Until you wrote the only physical body you know it if you take it it's so it's almost sort of -- -- will spare money in -- -- being felt more people. Up that are still here in -- taken -- -- -- it takes a cut away from their. Any help benefits from from the dollar. What it all boils down to. I mean you'd think how -- I guarantee if you compare Europe -- Your body to somebody this frame eight YouTube we've taken a multivitamin. Or Biden's. I guarantee their body of a totally different. A totally different aspect -- -- Think it tremendously help it build your immune system -- would you know what else would you white blood cell count that's what he'll despite being brought right into your body. Right I just made the decision long time ago. Area I'm a research fanatic I mean I've you know I don't give people know from listening to show. I just don't blindly accepts things until I can read and try to make your common sense decision. And I think and I think what's happening now and so I take these fourteen different vitamins and supplements every day of my life. You know I'd I can tell you how many times -- what to places like gardeners. You know they always seem to have somebody that you know was knowledgeable there and I've talked to them about a lot of things recently I've talked to woman up there. When my wife was going through this radiation treatment they had a lot of things there they felt they could helper. But. I I just sense and maybe this just goes back to my basic. Distrust of government. With. -- -- I think that that this is the beginning they're seeing the billions of dollars spent on discover stuff. And with the -- with the pharmaceutical companies in bed with Obama -- obamacare that's obviously true. And low and one way that they can it's I think what you said is absolutely true that if the truth be known this is all just a bow to the month the money. Thank you -- appreciated. Since he brought it up. Now there's another story here today. Policy going and bring it up now. Consumer reports. Has an article are too many kids taking. Anti psychotic drugs. This is out this month and consumer reports the number of children. Taking powerful. Anti psychotic drugs. Has nearly triple. Over the last ten to fifteen years. New research the increase comes not because. Of an epidemic. Of the schizophrenia. Or other types of serious mental illness in children. The article says but because doctors are increasingly prescribing. The drugs. To treat behavior problems. And that is not approved by the FDA. Yeah and a disproportionate. Number of these prescriptions. Are written for poor and minority children some as young as the age of two years ago. Is a stab -- what doctors are prescribing anti psychotic even though. The article says there's minimal evidence that the drugs helped kids for a approved uses much less. The unapproved ones such as behavioral problems and to make it even worse. -- the little research there is suggests that drugs can cause all kinds of troubling side effects. Including weight gain high cholesterol increase risk of type two diabetes something I know about personally. Now it says doctors can legally and commonly do write prescriptions for any medication they see fit to treated condition. But over use of anti psychotic drugs. Has become worrisome enough. That the American Psychiatric Association recently announced. That doctors should not be routinely prescribing these drugs as first line treatment to children and adolescents for any reason. Other -- psychotic disorders things like schizophrenia. Or something called -- severe tic disorders. And they're so concerned. That they chose to include this issue. As a part of something -- choosing wisely an initiative in which consumer reports. Has joined together -- -- all these national medical societies. To identify tests and treatments. To ask your doctor about. Now they make the case that anti psychotic drugs have a place in psychiatric treatment even in children and teens. Because they can help manage the oldies disabling symptoms. But for many kids taking these drugs. The benefits probably don't outweigh the risks and may have a quote here from a doctor Christopher -- RNC. He said quote -- what's not known about the long term effect is very troubling he's at tufts university's school of medicine and Boston the younger you go. The more you can affect the developing brain what's behind this all they did an investigation several things. Overly aggressive drug marketing. A lack of access to quality mental health care caught in the middle -- families who often have insufficient resources to deal with complex emotional. Psychological and behavioral problems. And because we want a quick fix. -- or a magic bullet. Then this is what happens. So let's throw that into the mix. Told what are we got study saying about vitamin supplements just a waste. And at the same time we've got consumer reports talking about big kids as youngest truth. Taking all these anti psychotic drugs and it's nearly tripled. The number of children taking these things tripled in the last ten to fifteen years. Now I know as well as I'm sitting in the studio right now somebody out there. Has just had to deal with this recently. I guarantee. And so I welcome your comment on this this is in consumer reports quick break back with -- a moment 924 now. Let's get a quick call in here from -- in Greenville highway. You comment on the bottom here yeah. What we go to law as a soccer and get our physical. You know they are -- -- get the blood tests and you know it'll show you -- You know what are your vitamin deficient here there you know a lot of your all your vitamin B and while -- -- -- -- about it. Whenever -- deficient. You know a lot of our officials say well take so vitamin B supplements. Or coming in and now what do you shot. Well vitamin -- shots are terrible for supplement don't go to a -- they might. Co pay or just people about. So you think that's what's behind this because -- and it in my own life. There's been a lot written about nationwide that people have -- deficiency of vitamin. People are using some screen normally get this from the sun. And people are spending less time outside. So -- years ago my doctor -- prescription. For a mega dose of vitamin. Yep and that's exactly what it is and for example. I am being which is which is to not be one. You know that's. Are responsible for. A lot for it is responsible for what's called a what. Bahrain and and it involving alcohol treatment terrorist. What are not a personal look drawing a great human infusion of vitamin be one because out all the private the the -- -- I mean and -- one is needed. Otherwise you look for some brain damage though because of the RW -- Yeah I just I don't know I knew this would strike a chord with people and thank you rate for the call will continue in a moment 931 it's new start this is -- Russ castle show. Our net charge my batteries specialists like 935 remember the rule on the -- -- show whatever you want to bring up whatever you think is most important. You're welcome to comment upon -- advantage talk climbed one available at the moment. The number in -- 2329673. Spartanburg 5749673. So. Multi vitamins and supplements. Through studies pretty much say wasted time. And then consumer reports ask a very thought provoking questions are too many kids taking anti psychotic drugs because the number of children. Taking these powerful drugs has nearly tripled over the last ten to fifteen years according to research. And their conclusion doctors are prescribing these powerful drugs. Even though there it quote the story minimal evidence that the drugs helped kids. Four approved uses much less the unapproved ones like behavioral problems. Starting I think immediate response on this site I knew I would get distrust my grandson is two. He's handsome. He's a handful he's rambunctious. Defiant typical two year old he will never take these types of drugs I don't care what any. Doctor cents. Now -- did you know they make the liquid prozac for infants as young as six months old. No I did not know that. You're kidding. -- anti psychotic drugs. -- one molecule all off from LSD. Think of all the military trials and studies. -- this is what I've always wondered about. How many of these teenage killers or even adults. Barred. In antidepressants and or ADD drug should never hear if any of these people like to Columbine killers were on any of these medications. -- all these articles they don't say who sponsored or paid for -- studies. Doesn't say. I think this could be -- say whether this could be skewed to the benefit of the AMA or pharmaceutical companies. Who lose money when people take supplements. And one more thing on this cinema to get back to the phones the New York Times. That I -- strikes accord with a lot of people has apiece. Called the selling of attention deficit disorder. And listen to what they -- after more than fifty years leading the fight. To legitimize attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. -- Carter should be celebrating. Severely hyperactive and impulsive children once -- as bad seeds are now recognized as having a real neurological problem. Doctors and parents have largely accepted drugs like enroll and is it -- -- To -- the trades of classic ADHD. Helping youngsters succeed in school beyond the doctor Connors. Is not feeling triumphant this fall. He addressed a group of fellow ADHD 88 ADHD specials in Washington. And he's talked about recent data from the CDC down in Atlanta. Get this folks that shows that the diagnosis. Now. Had been made in 15% of high school aged children and at the number of children on medication. For ADHD. Has soared to three and a half million today. It was only 600000. In 1990. And this doctor. Is questioning the rising rates of diagnosis. And he called them quote a national disaster of dangerous proportions. He said the numbers make it look like an epidemic well it's not it's preposterous said doctor Connors who is a professor emeritus at Duke University. He said this is a concoction. To justify -- giving out of medication. And all unprecedented. And unjustifiable. Levels in quote. So I didn't. We talked about it before. It's not hard to figure out I think what's going on -- talked to Allen in rebuilt. -- -- Boring that the human body is just amazing. It's that this damning audit that the it is every single day we -- eating itself. Or you're making millions of sales every day every only source. City used its own supply easy to reproduce this -- in your brain junior high or low earlier -- -- reproduce -- self every seven years trying. It's what you put -- your -- And we were designed for. First certain nutritional. -- our body to do that process and when we start doing paint it or what. We were designed to use which are not real -- -- things outside of that including describes what it's. You're seeing. The reproduction. It's important that we production -- -- -- the reproduction of your liver reproduction of your columns. With anything that you put in your mail including trucks. -- -- -- and don't touch. We didn't stop problems because sometimes we can't think it is satisfied are -- it knows this it's. We need help but we've got -- you know and there is no doubt that some drugs and or certain certain. There is an amazing drugs out there that help people every day. Everett but in general you can simple or what this site subscription products. -- the third leading architect and America. It's not what but it's everybody that's another thing about -- one of the complete edit everybody a little different. And so what -- it may be benefits somebody inch or triple but it just listen to the adults -- people and it really don't know -- -- Well here in -- talk I would just get a bad many ironies because I pay attention because I'm I'm in the field of advertising. And and and you pay attention to these these ads on TV. A more than half of the commercial. Is talking about all the side effects it's all the disclaimer and I swear it seems like most of and to me the that group we're number one side effect -- lymphoma. If you didn't want it seemed like. -- as ever but how why and why oil and I don't think that yeah. Arabs we expect to hear it that way it again and obesity has skyrocketed didn't. I believe the reason that the city has skyrocketed is totally. -- -- -- What people are putting in their -- There eating things that are not. I mean to Pringle -- portion of its not done. -- right in in any make or implement what people want aghast at what happens -- -- well exam will wait Morse just -- -- well. You know the regular on the role and I forget who said there's a long time ago but it's really a good rule if you wanna feel better. If you and I in in my own life in and with all the things that I fight health wise -- I have become operations label reader. You know you can see me abstinent there in the -- and even though I says those who -- it once was and sit there reading. And the rule that I've come to now is if if I can't pronouncing it I don't take it. But they did it -- that and the best it's a piece of whatever gave me if you could do this like half the time. When your eating something don't put anything in your mouth that has more than one ingredient in other words. -- broccoli broccoli. There -- flowers cauliflower. You know beef -- -- -- word comes from his base we beef chicken. You know I mean it or specially organic chicken. That's that's a pretty good rule to follow but yet most of America. -- they wouldn't think about that. I start to save their life depended on what your -- really does. Mean what you -- sales from government -- -- what you bring felt like bananas and vegetables. Yeah I think that concept is something that can easily be understood and if you put me in if you read the back of the packet to read those verses the back of -- bag -- -- organic for Egypt's right ankle very organic it's it's it's as. -- And saw you at about it may be -- sample everything I read those. It would but what about this for -- -- -- -- if we could pronounce it. -- -- into what are -- healthy it's what your putting Loral in the art of all -- including. I think -- it's. What else but overall prospect federal. But while I wouldn't say look where it really affected people with -- writes a -- but who knows what they'll be true you Herschel ran all you. What do you know let that be a concern it's very careful. Good call your very wise man -- Thank you very much Merry Christmas. All right 944 now. Coming up by 948. Merry Christmas from all of us here on the -- castle show was talked to Susan in Greenbelt highs. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Fact in and this is not going to be popular but in turn these kids turn on his medication. I've seen it with my own family not my children. Kids they're put on drugs to discipline and control them what ever my husband has seen -- -- I think a lot of people don't have the patience or the time. Or their bill wine take whatever it may be can deal with kids said. If NATO and he made their incredibly intelligent. And they they can't deal with that little dot com. They go to a doctor doctor you gotta help me -- I just in my life too busy guy just can't handle this I'm stressing out whatever whatever. And according to consumer reports doctors are prescribing these powerful anti -- can't aids. Four behavioral problems and that's not what their 40 that's right. That's not what they're -- so obviously what you said. Is a logical conclusion. And then you start looking at the side effects and both short term and long term. And that's what I don't understand that parents don't think without. What are the long term side effects of these drugs OK your kids -- calm now and your life is a little easier. But what is it going to be like for them 102030. Years down the road when we find out what the long term side effects are. I don't know amid continued look at this ADHD thing which is come out many times on this program and you got this guy. Locate this doctor this doctor. Taking data from the CDC. Eighty HD now the diagnosis has been made in 15% of high school aged children. The number of children on medication for ADHD. Has soared it was 600000 in 1990 now -- three and a half million. And he called the rising rates of diagnosis. Quote a national disaster a dangerous. For four proportions because he said. If you look at the numbers that make it looks like that we have an epidemic of this -- said we don't. I agree so many in -- man if this kind of stuff doesn't make you think. I don't know really what does it very scary all right thank you Susan. Some of the comments Ross I think -- pharmaceutical companies would love to get people all of natural supplements. -- quality matters in supplementation fish oil for example that is sold in drugstores it gives you fishy Brooks. That the rains it usually put a capsule versions instead. This frustrated cold -- I know my vitamin C is getting low when I feel a cold sore. Starting also smoking destroys vitamins city that was proven in scientific studies. I quit smoking 10 barber -- Ballmer got an office the first time. -- Joseph Biden. Takes no -- total. 500 milligrams twice today. It appears to be working just fine for it. You -- you ever wonder. If somebody's job. A marketing guy probably. To sit around and come up with names for drugs. Think about that. Russ I'm an Ariane 45 years I've been a student of both valeo telepathic and natural medicine for that long I take no beds. And supplement always. Using high quality products as for SSR rise they're very dangerous and highly overprescribed. There's a wonderful natural alternative available called I think it's in poll. Were applause Q 96. EM PO were plus WE RP OUSQ. 96 haven't heard of that. It has 22 independent study seventeen years of used to document efficacy. And almost zero side effects can provide you more info. If your interest it. Well yeah. Russ. Want to Columbine killers on -- so. Russ I think that the fans just want us to be sick and feel bad -- it makes it's easier to control and big pharma. I think Ross is part of the -- ball. Well simply do no good do they do any harm if they do no harm I'm gonna keep taking them. -- remember all the reports on eggs one near their good the next year their bad the next year they're good the next time their bad. Any report on anything will be reversed the next year just use common sense. That does seem to be true. Courage. Quick break back -- more of this in a moment it's 953 you're listening to live and local WORD. 1063. And we got time for what. More cave in Spartanburg okay. There I got to coming that he ADHD medication. Didn't want to the bill grandchildren. And them. And siren or whenever an -- it was OK. I think I here's my theory -- Is I until it and then very liberal very democratic area action and we were definitely not. Allowed to discipline her children in public it was so shined that you would be too careful of your children to discipline them and I think that it started. About the trying when he ADHD medication and skyrocketed. And they wonder if that's not harder that the fact that we've been so pushed away from disciplining and structure our chill. I I I think you in the last caller nailed it here because. This day -- -- a lot of parents just don't wanna deal with it and perhaps more importantly they don't have a clue how to deal -- that. If you look at the facts ADHD historically. And it affects about 5% of children I mean it is according to the experts a legitimate disability this really great the other big story here is. Then a week it's been over diagnosed and medicines have been over prescribed and so the conclusion to come true. Maybe it's just really old just about the money. Thank UK. It is 10 o'clock. We have two more big hours ago good -- -- -- get through this stack of stuff but we're gonna do our best and will be back to kick it off right after a news update 10 o'clock.