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The Russ Cassell Show 12/23/2013 Hour 2

Dec 23, 2013|

Bill Chumley's ethics hearing for using state funds to bring in Walter E Williams to speak about Obamacare; Cracker Barrel and Duck Dynasty; Lindsey Graham election spots

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This is -- Russ castle show Howard and charge my batteries specialist and just what -- speak to that last story for a second. The reason there's a hearing today is because -- -- -- requested a hearing. Now full disclosure. You know bill Charlie and I have -- both on the air and all fear I I think. I think he has a very very brave legislator. -- leading the way. When it -- leaders were fighting him tooth and mail. So that South Carolina good. Be a model for the rest of the country. It nullifying this monstrosity. Known as obamacare you know today's the big deadline and if you want insurance by December 1. Last month the so called ethics committee. The chairman is Kenny Bingham out of Lexington county. Found a quote quote probable cause. In Bingham is the Republicans. That somehow bill actually had violated. The State's ethics laws by flying in Walter Williams. To testify. Before Charlie subcommittee. About the the effort to nullify obamacare. State law allows lawmakers to use that plane for official state business. But he curious thing the state law does not define. What official state business trips. I mean it does not for example -- use of the state plane for a news conference or -- bill signing or political functions. But they're obviously. These rhinos like Kenny Bingham at a Lexington. On and others. This is they're retaliation. Plain and simple. Against bill Chamblee out of Woodruff. And a hearing is scheduled for 930. Today. -- -- late requested the hearing now why. Would build Chamblee. One his -- day in court. Because his request to bring Walter Williams -- on this bill HR 31 -- one. Had already he'd gotten an opinion on it. And he was on solid ground. He had requested. And received approval in advance. From a woman named -- dean. Eight house ethics committee attorney. And she wrote back to build -- Part of it quote therefore it is the opinion of the ethics committee staff. That you would not be committing a violation of the South Carolina ethics act. By requesting the state plane be used to transport a witness to a subcommittee hearing. According to the nerve dot org. House attorney down in Columbia Steve Davis and confirmed. That the ethics committee back on November 26 found probable cause the bill -- Might have violated section eight -- thirteen -- 765. Of the South Carolina total flaws. The same ball -- and in the initial complaint which was filed in June by Thomas Davies of Woodruff. Who happens to be Belgium -- Democrat opponent. Back in the 2010 house election. And bill -- responded to the complaint saying the sole purpose of providing doctor Williams to testify. Was to provide the subcommittee members with expert testimony. Based on doctor Williams -- scholarship and experience on the matters that are the subject of age 31 -- one. They'll -- we wrote to the house legislative ethics committee I'm further aware based upon my review. Of the publicly available flight blogs. A various flights taken by other state officers and legislators. Which seemed too much more personal in nature. And much less related to any official business of the state and therefore seemingly much more ethically questionable. Then the flight used to transport doctor Williams who testified in Colombia march 20 of this year. So bill -- wrote in summary please allow me to express to the committee my sincere regret -- -- having to deal with this issue. So. Yeah and he is sticking to his guns he said he didn't violated the law. Wasn't you know any thing really that should be questioned about this. Especially if you look closely at the state -- but there -- print anyway. Just dishes -- Columbia works. This is the way he had written permission. From people. You know all the staff. And I'm sure that's what he's gonna bring out in this hearing starting in about ninety minutes from right now. Let's say they wanna make they wanna get headlines they wanna make a big deal about this so. We'll see what they do or don't do. In this hearing which is coming up shortly here. But I wanna due to understand all that's going on with -- you welcome to comment on in my opinion. I think bill Charlie is a hero. I think he did. Exactly what more legislators should do. You gotta ask yourself. Why why haven't. Some of these other folks come forward. Because now. We get national news between what bill -- did and he's 31 a one and what senator Tom Davis has pledged to do. In just a few weeks from the legislature goes back to work I sure that article we -- from daily caller. In other publications saying South Carolina can be the model. For the rest of the country on how to stop obamacare in the states. And from everything that I'm given. Even the good Ole -- state senate. I think I might go along with -- -- thing so the headline here and a few weeks is South Carolina leads the way. To stop obamacare that's what I'm hoping to see it's a very real possibility folks. Something finally to get excited about. But in the same time and remember -- some guy who started this in the house. They're gonna bring a -- on so called ethics charges because the the Democrats and the Ryan knows they're ticked off that he was so successful. That's the real story on this. Riches in -- wants to make a comment about this rich. I tell you I'd like to have. -- or deep put up the names almost people let's go that it could be. And this committee that's gonna. Here it well and you know Hamid -- there's one -- and I think every one of some. Should be kicked out of office this stuff has got to stop these rhinos got ago. That album but a bunch Democrats or Republican cloak. But Kenny Bingham is a Republican he's the -- Then you got to a Elizabeth Mon merlot and you mentioned Tommy Pope -- solve -- just like the cart SK AB. GM Smith junior and -- Leon. It's ever ran a knock us or Stephanopoulos. Stammering and Marcus I guess it is. Don't notice is people need to ago I mean we get a clean announced that it Columbia. And it is worse so Washington DC. We can't get any conservative agenda. An estate because they're all what you Democrat. Yet people will stand up and tell you that South Carolina always one of the most conservative states that's that's a joke is they go and hit it well you know Illinois is the most corrupt state in the union. But -- but. I I'd listen I'd I'd just want you know the real story here and the real story is they're still ticked off that bill -- -- because he did his job so well. It did his job so well. And he and I think he -- enough that he was Smart enough but he's got written evidence. Before he ever decided to fly him doctor Walter Williams if he had already said yeah they're -- mind you can bring in a witness to testify before a subcommittee. -- Don't have these other people on this flawed. They have questionable -- what I did bring those -- George bats the way the good Ole boy system works and bill Charlie's now. -- to -- it starts aren't -- fighting fire with fire we -- -- -- stop -- such nice scout it's well. I -- to go for the jugular. I agree. Are they agreed wholeheartedly -- that's what I've been preaching for a long time on this program. Russia could be -- we get some well I think there's a group that actually has made the trip down some Tea Party folks who made the trip down to be there to support bill -- -- And I don't know may be will get a call after this hearing is over I I I hope that we will. We have an opportunity maybe could. Some -- -- from represented and I know you don't usually attribute most people but BP this would be back. Welcome to call in and and bill surely has -- Charlie is taken advantage of that opportunity. We've had many conversations on this program but. I'm -- -- busy right now but hopefully may be before the programs over we might get one of those also and they say stay tuned rich. So much you have a Merry Christmas differently as well you too sir thank you so much are let's talk to bill in Easley high built. Failure. Or talk about her career order -- you -- you to dig Cracker Barrel still. Well almost painted the word cracker in -- unnamed Cracker Barrel. In outbreak but he built a very word cracker. On the -- you have to December. Around the country -- have a very good dirtier word kitty. -- -- met Palestinian or coworker. It now since you bring it -- It's interesting. With some of these groups I wonder why they've never. You know made a big stink about that. What are we doing about it I mean -- day and age what your Phil Roberts that are anybody else. I mean in the David cage witness is just even words are our thoughts. Just sent these people off. It is a bit ironic then all this controversy over the weekend was about. Cracker -- 00 no I don't you come strong. -- really good spirit seems so you know hook -- murder the but we -- a lot of people who. Maybe don't have a very very at the ovary and period you know they do I don't know like I think I -- -- -- the girl. Yeah I think and I read last week the Redskins have told you all those folks it ain't gonna happen they're not gonna change the name of the Redskins but. -- but yes great question -- if the Redskins name is offensive then why isn't the cracker in Cracker Barrel. I thank you. I don't know somebody might can go start another change. I mean would it be offensive is somebody who went on started homey barrel. But -- for so we get we did we get them -- bear. 917 speaking of Cracker Barrel we talked a little bit about this last hour and got a huge response from people I'm trying to get to appear. Can anybody figure out. What went down with Cracker Barrel. I -- this may go down. As one of the biggest. Management blunders in the history of American business. They come out on Friday. And and for some reason these days. Instead of putting out will be used to get which was like an official press release they posted on their FaceBook page. That out of quote ideals of fairness mutual respect and equal treatment of all people. That there were ever gonna remove from their store some. Some not at all. Doug dynasty Slashdot commander products. Because Cracker Barrel quote was concerned. That some of these products might offend some of their guests. And they were gonna do this while they quote quote evaluated the situation. With Phil Robertson -- artist. Well. Apparently and I you know I think this was folks I think they were just testing the market right -- christmastime they thought folks wouldn't be paying attention and and they were just testing to see. But it turned out I think to be one of the biggest blunders Sunday. They totally reversed themselves. And they posted on their on their FaceBook page dear Cracker Barrel customer. When we made the decision to remove -- value wait. Certain -- dynasty items we offended many of our loyal customers are intent was to avoid offending. But that's just what we don't. You told us we made a mistake. We listened you were shy about it you wrote you called YouTube to social media to expression of thoughts and feelings -- flat out told us we were wrong today. We're putting all our -- dynasty products back in our stores and we apologize for offending you. We respect all individuals rights to express their beliefs we certainly didn't mean to have any one thing different we sincerely hope you'll continue to be part. Of our Cracker Barrel -- fan are you kidding me. So let's take them at face value. So if they really. Are concerned about offending. Their customers. Then why did they remove anything from their store to begin with and why it was that only certain products. What what was Cracker Barrel trying to accomplish because in essence if you look at it on its face value they ticked off everybody now. 'cause I'm getting this emails biblical it's too late. You've already revealed what you really are Cracker Barrel and the people are setting and stop here I'll read into it say we're never gonna go back again. At all of this and in what's amazing to see is. A -- like all bowl people to lead the way in this since Cracker Barrel. To my knowledge Wal-Mart hasn't received one single thing to have them removed one single item from their store there's a story up this morning. That don't know sponsors are dropping under armor came out over the weekend. And said they're gonna keep ties to -- dynasty despite the controversy. Under armour is one of the main sponsors. -- and they announced that yeah. We're we're we're gonna stick what these folks under armour clothes occasional no. Are prominently featured on Doug dynasty they're also a title sponsor a -- commander. Now they did say they do not condoned. What Phil Robertson said as of now. They're gonna keep their ties with the franchise. In a statement under armour said. The recent comments in the GQ article. Are not reflective of under farmers beliefs and do not represent our point of view as a company we are committed to diversity and inclusion. And believe in treating everyone equally equally and with respect. So. What does that really mean then. We're gonna stick by the company we think what they did was wrong but we're gonna stick them anyway. I mean people what what is a customer what one lady they interviewed she said. Someone sponsoring something of course they they stand behind what they saying. But what are they really studying -- But there you know compared to something like the Paula -- controversy. When basically she got kicked out and kicked off of everything. Is this old -- honesty thing just amazing. Now the other -- AE like glad. They say they're getting the biggest backlash. That they'd ever had. This is the group that came -- a good place. Robertson said over the weekend and I'll get to all of this deputies. He's she's gonna keep on doing what he's -- and that he's not taking any of it back. He he said I'm not back it off any of my comments. So let's talk about all that to. Joseph who is in travelers rest -- Joseph. You don't you by Mary Christmas to recruit but I don't like the call. Or operate their -- Cracker Barrel. But it are the third. That is what we had people on Saturday and Sunday and I was there. And it was a bit that's a bigger -- of the year -- -- -- ordered it direct subsidies by but it. Then why come out and do what you did on Friday why wasn't what you dead. Knew that this was going to be busy for many -- did they honestly think that people weren't paying attention and and people wouldn't be ticked off. I mean that's yeah it's bad management. Yeah it was bad. For our DNA -- they're thrilled. To -- GQ interview that it knew what it was sort of but in life. Well they did they had warned -- LA times has an article they had warned hit and they claim numerous times. About you know I have been saying similar things because he's been out there on YouTube for years you ever seen one of his sermons. Mean what he said NGQ is mild compared to what he said before. Well actually does -- want the worst home show. And -- re not supposed great this happened there. Or were pretty sure there's been a few all of the shot or do they are well. We -- that this is a really weird thing because usually these networks are these big companies. Usually they say OK that's it we're we're Catan -- you know we're -- -- go. But both AMA I was amazed over the weekend ever show on the -- honesty marathon. The amount and there are bigger these -- Green collar green bigger -- being -- right there but which ball or they're golf. -- you know a lot of. -- I mean she is a Food Network star for a long long time. And achieved at great she's a great success story what are you gonna Paula is that most of the thing about all of this was laid up. It -- it wasn't even true. But who do not going that way he says I sit what I said and I mean that I'm not taken it back. And in Cracker Barrel has just made a huge missed his people are saying that's it I'm not going back anyway thank you Joseph. Nine Tony for quick break back with more. I have got news coming up -- a couple emails here -- my family will not be frequenting Cracker Barrel ever get. We have enjoyed meeting there for breakfast. Or lunch for years no more. I remember not many years back they vowed not to hire homosexuals who or what changed their minds. Apologies issued after a company or individual says what they mean to say or void of any merit. Why can't they owned their opinions I think all of this came into play on the back up political correctness -- Somali. And that's what rush yesterday I went to be Duncan Cracker Barrel to return to gift certificates I bought as Christmas gifts. I told the manager it was because of their decision on -- dynasty. She told me the -- commander items were still on display. I told her that is still reflected on the Robertson's. And that was how would be perceived she told me she couldn't give me any money back they were not set up to do that and she gave me the 1800 number to call corporate I did. And through their guest relations department made arrangements to cancel the gift cards and get my money back. I told both local and corporate that this move by Cracker Barrel will probably be taught in business schools for decades to come. On what not to do five days before Christmas. I also told the local manager -- If you would think that a business that incorporates. A derogatory term for white people would lay low on politically correct problems I also said. You could have been chick filet instead you were Al Sharpton what a shame anyway Ross all the push -- must've worked shortly afterwards. But they changed their policy and apologized. That comes from our friend John -- -- more to come to 930 its new stuff. This is the Russ -- show. Our -- charge my batteries specialists. 935 Merry Christmas -- get these callers who have been waiting let's talk to Kevin in more. I can't. We're sitting here in the morning enjoying the -- and -- Hoping America developed pretty good things about what -- to -- -- boy when someone else. Picketing facts restaurant. You know there there's Lebanon into grinder -- their vote. -- -- -- All facts on an -- so that. 08 in other words you can call somebody fad that's offensive. Show. -- between the cracker and Cracker Barrel in France has had two good weeks so pimples. Well but it's early Kevin you know it's early yet and it's Christmas he could you know gonna happen it just based on your phone call. Well -- automotive -- not to solve the problem on an apartment uploading restaurant China called skinny. Have there you go oh yeah are they. Big carefully spell it though -- say -- -- and for the record France's FA TZ. My whole life. But Rick at our Thanksgiving and appreciate the call are sorry here's the -- who would go to Cracker Barrel anyway that place is for. Suburban night Rosie pawned Lily white spirit of the real area they are again. They feel safer -- concocted so called country setting. Fake country food and I'll be -- I go to the skilled in Spartanburg real food on the odds and people. I actually -- -- I've always enjoyed the food Cracker Barrel -- -- CI and the big breakfast and when I'm off work. 'cause I never did -- breakfast I'm I'm always on the year. Ross what's hilarious. Is all these people making -- -- dynasty controversy. About free speech and how wrong it was for you need to take -- loft yet these same people are cutting off Cracker Barrel for the same thing they are angry about a and he doing. Typical conservatives -- the first of all I said Friday. There explained it this is certainly not about free speech. Nobody nobody stop Phil from saying what he wanted to say. You know what we talk about these rights folks you know I've been consistent on this. Yes we do have those rights but they're also our responsibilities and consequences. When you dared to -- that if I put it bluntly this way before yet you do have the right to free speech you do not have the right to be hurt. Jason put on this program I don't have to take your call. I mean you you go what street corner and say what you want I guess. But -- -- that that is a valid point it is a reaction to an action. But it is a valid point. -- Cracker Barrel I think. Should now be forced to sell rainbow flags. Just like a bakery out in Colorado. John said they had to sell a gay marriage wedding cake. Let's see how Cracker Barrel likes that. Bottom. Well maybe they will. -- -- -- Product profits are shared by a need to commander profits go to the Roberts it's now this was won by. Thoughts when I heard about what Cracker Barrel had done. Over the weekend. Because at first. It the way it was explained to me in the way I read it was -- Cracker Barrel was going to pull. Solemn. Of the -- dynasty products. But then they were gonna keep selling -- commander products and a lot of folks don't know I guarantee a lot of folks went out over the weekend. And maybe they were gonna get a mini wave maybe is just in reaction to this bill Robertson story in the GQ interview. But -- people don't realize. Apparently part of the deal although I've never seen the contract. But a part of the deal is elite. Owns the merchandising rights to -- dynasty which is the title of the TV program. And -- commander. Is totally owned and operated by eight the Robertson family. And so. When I first heard the story I thought if they're only pulling the -- dynasty products then maybe this is a move against a unique. Is what I thought. But then of course they reversed themselves because apparently a lot of folks don't realize there is a difference. Between don't dynasty and -- commander. So this text messenger again. Points that out. -- the more news right here lately Doug dynasty congress left right. I think will welcome to the divided states of America it's also sad. My heart breaks for god looking down on the mess that we have made her Christmas. Rust you know I think this was a way for Cracker Barrel to get free publicity. That they have -- dynasty products. -- mr. Robertson said the exact same thing the Pope said. Homosexual acts are sand but we're called to love all people the Pope was praised Phil Robertson is the dabhol. If you look for offense and everything you hear then you'll definitely find it. -- -- I bet. Cracker Barrel talking about the -- commander products not -- dynasty well maybe. Maybe. Who knows it's it's so confusing it was only some products. While they evaluated one person said Russ. I'm -- there were only gonna remove products that had fills likeness on that -- may be the explanation. Russell bullets you know there were thirty cars in the parking lot of Cracker Barrel yesterday at 1 PM up in pigeon forge that comes from Michael in Taylor's. Thirty cars is not a lot and we have one right across the street here from our studio. And Woodruff in Arlington -- and author of did corner of Woodruff wrote an 85. And million more times and a parking lot is always full time I'm sitting here wondering how this mayor made out of affected them. -- sorry folks. This -- thing just drives me crazy sometimes. -- count me in. As one of those who will no longer patronize Cracker Barrel. Because their original decision spoke volumes about their corporate philosophy which is not compatible with my personal values. I have a very long memory I still don't buy Wrigley is Gomes thirty years after they sponsored the guns of autumn. -- I thought cracker was a family friendly place apparently they don't want anyone. To quote from the -- CE. Folks by doing what they did and in reversing it I guess they were tried to save the day. But once you go that way can you ever will. Really get about -- of the Cracker Barrel management didn't realize their customers would would act the way they did then they truly are dumb. -- I went out Saturday purchase -- commander merchandise -- academy sports not a Cracker Barrel. I think it's too late for Cracker Barrel to put the -- dynasty back out. -- people are really ticked off about this are just talk to Linda in Spartanburg hi -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I don't wanted to are -- employees have crack about the province you know this but expect brownies to punish be punished for what they did. Maybe a boycott Farooq -- that we did there's sounded six. We love it I can't -- out there. Did you did you look around the story if you had beaten and did you did you see any -- dynasty or -- commander products out. Are you kidding I'm Amanda I don't shop like Saturday. I hope I try to go there delivered by a fairly but my granddaughter has figured out now. That they have toys over in the -- and so she's always after Papa hanta virus something we're. I know it again but they need this is -- this is what it takes -- -- everything and -- they're conservatives and a lot to lot people get so banks. Messed that we need to grow -- Well there has no backlash I mean it has been a tremendous backlash on this obviously for Greg -- to reversed itself. Right and accept others don't like stuff being pushed in my face. What right do -- is behind closed doors and Hoch what if you wanna do that between you and god but don't push it in my face or don't make me you have to like. All right Glenn thank senator John cherry creek YouTube 944 quick break back with more. 948 with jump down to Simpson bill where we find Larry. Larry that was Mike Huckabee talking about your favorite senator. -- that's well -- talking about it won't let it. Merry Christmas -- open -- and especially to your wife this Christmas I just thank you so much. -- quick commercial restaurant where -- Graham. You know -- -- I want your lower part of the -- than a lot of lessons out they feel there's retribution well not voting or Lindsay Graham. An election. Is front and how much it's expanding elect commercial their point certain portfolio actions yeah not almond. Yeah I do I know exactly what you -- and I had I had the same thought because people are asking me all the time. Why would Graham. Run that commercial not just on this show but on these stations. And and I you know because obviously his strategy is to win Colombia and below. Because the odds are he's not gonna win Columbia and a boat. And -- did every time it runs somebody says it is Huckabee just the dumbest guy that ever walked around Huckabee by the way said over the weekend there's a 5050 chance he's gonna run for president. We know -- Editor Ian Graham and come up with that some kind of deal. Good basic debate but who opposed it I'm like you're from some other -- that it's it's running and all our you know liberal. I'm -- I -- -- just refused until it's done to his -- did you hear it. -- -- pledged twenty million dollars through Vietnam and other places because. They don't there on the field I don't quite wished. He used the word cornerstone bodies. Okay deal with them but -- definition of course coercion here oops yeah. It says the complaint about Ford's current immigration and international monitors signing a document. Dominated or controlled especially bikes. Exporting certain planet itself. It should be O Bob local edition instead of obamacare. Shouldn't it. Of course. That's exactly what is happening here we have been in common interests in the buying that stupid programs. That are socialist democratic. Under threat to -- Gary Carter bright so we're ranked right. Part of our law the so called settled law that's now been changed like seventeen times by the -- -- so I did Larry Merry Christmas thank you. Manchin easily hi Matt. -- right and today I hope you mark. -- -- -- And I've -- Cracker -- quite a few times in the past and candidate at they're able. They have this -- -- card or you can comment asserted yes and yes they do and I think it's you know it is somebody off that some thing ending any offers waste the college. We have complete sincere apology like they gave me. If you accept that apology and and maybe you're right on the current car take I eighty here today because. You guys did this because if if if you're doing something cute -- change behaviors been treated. -- technology when it worked well. I've always thought about that very question because a lot of folks make the mistake. Even in their personal faith. Just because you -- tent. And just because the lord you know has given us the greatest gift of all and that's a chance at salvation. And eternal life. Does not mean did did everything's going to be hunky dory for you for the rest of your life. In other words to applied to your situation you could accept cracker barrels apology. You can say OK fine everybody makes mistakes it does not mean then you have to go there neat. Lol wouldn't that give incentives to other people then they make the same decision to say well you know what they die is cast. I've already -- the public therefore I'm not going to change our -- You would think but it can you name. Any other all the -- your head can you can you name a situation like this where it's happened before you. -- a column where it got off the cover my Edward how would it be practical and good because at all. Colin all got a very positive. Customer feedback per quickly admitting that better control process settle out there -- to be poisoned. You know I I don't think the best policy just to be quick here. Yeah I think that's a little bit different because there's a huge liability involved there there's no liability involved here except in that he can hurt them you know at the bottom line. I it is you know I I hear what -- saying and forgiveness is a bit is a very powerful motivate her. You know especially for folks -- of the Christian faith I mean it is the it is everything Christ forgave us were supposed to forgive others. But a -- but again just because you say okay they made a mistake it does not mean that you still have to go and eat there and other. The opportunity to -- server or sit there it cashier guy and then that cart and they expect try to make a huge difference in my life. And I really appreciate you guys retracting. That decision and recording a Christian community. Now there I I -- or just say thank you Matt. 953 now. All right we've got a little bit more than a minute. Let's talk to James in Spartanburg hi James. Hello loves -- -- American Freedom Party. Had an organizational meeting growing -- Owned -- sixty that would ban last week. What can you tell me about -- We covered and it's now. I believe the gathering was the Americans for prosperity. -- as opposed to the American Freedom Party and this is a nationwide conservative organization quite frankly. I did little stunned that said they haven't really had a presence. Here and of all places South Carolina. But Duncan did speak and from what I can show it's it's it's a good organization. You know they seem to have the right principles spit at least as far as I can tell. But we'll see going forward. Because the head of that who is a South Carolina native. Actually said that South Carolina when you compare to other states has really not gone far enough. It now promoting and spreading the message of conservatism. That I happen to agree with him on that. -- Yes so do -- I'm sure we're gonna hear from them a lot in 2014 especially heading into next year's elections Americans for. Prosperity. Ross -- is one to let you know I just pass Cracker Barrel on Woodruff road across the street you guys. And it looks as busy as usual path that comes from filled in Simpson bill. Sorry to -- hours ago stick around you're listening to the rust castle -- 10 o'clock.